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the ninjak
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Sabs can't touch Drac without Drac turning into mist instantly.
Drac WILL bite Sabs.
Sabs WILL temporarily become a slave even if just for ten minutes.
Drac is stronger and faster than Sabs.
Dracula orders Sabs to imprison/Destroy himself before the curse wears off.


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On the physical side Drac pimp slapped Logan like a *****.
Sabs aint nuttin.
Stupid Lupines.


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Originally posted by the ninjak
Sabs can't touch Drac without Drac turning into mist instantly.
Drac WILL bite Sabs.
Sabs WILL temporarily become a slave even if just for ten minutes.
Drac is stronger and faster than Sabs.
Dracula orders Sabs to imprison/Destroy himself before the curse wears off.


That you think "Sabes ain't nothing" only goes to show how utterly devoid you are of having a credible opinion on this matter.

"On the physical side" Wolverine blitzed Dracula from half a room away and effectively landed his first attack, the only reason Dracula "beat" Wolverine was because for whatever reason Wolverine couldn't tank getting slashed at by his itty-bitty fingernails allowing Drac to go for his throat. Yeah.. the only way Drac managed to beat Wolverine was by writers ignoring what Wolverine tanks from basically his entire rogues gallery at any given time in his career...

Oy....... look. Dracula already bit Wolverine when Wolverine's HF was far far weaker, and Wolverine recovered in a matter of moments..

Wolverine from those years is literally nothing compared to Sabretooth in his most current manifestations. Sabretooth has far greater durability, and WAYYYYYYYYYYY WAYYYYYYYYYYY WAY more rapid healing abilities.

There's also the fact that mental manipulations don't work on Creed and almost any attempt to take his mind over results in psychic backlashes, that Dracula could even overshadow Wolverine's will in that comic was ALSO something that's quite suspect given what we know about his will..... and Sabretooth? The guy's an animal when it comes to sheer will power.

Dracula doesn't phase through attacks when he gets into physical match-ups.. If he tries to brawl with Sabretooth or fight him in any physical manner Creed can and WILL eviscerate the living shit out of him. no expression


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Logan had "days" to build an immunity to the curse due to the nanos in his body weakening his HF.
So when Scott reactivated his HF to full level it was ready to purge it.
A genius plan.
Sabs wouldn't have this advantage.
Apocalypse with total control of his molecular structure was seconds away from becoming a slave until he was saved by his mutant ally.

You have to also factor in-
Deafening thunderstorms and gale force winds focusing on Sabs.
Hundreds of rats rushing Sabs as a further distraction.
Vastly stronger strength. Superspeed.
I never said the bite would be permanent just temporary Sabs has never been biten before.
Drac is also a master swordsman. Sabs got his head cut off recently he isn't indestuctible.
He is a team killer Sabs aint.


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I just remembered the sword Logan used kills anything so being beheaded by a normal sword will still count as a win regardless.
The guy took Surfer, Dr Strange (with Scarlett Witch and Ms Marvel-Monica) an entire X-team.
Dudes been classified as Low Herald.


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and wolverine got bitten by jubilee and it took

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and wolverine got bitten by jubilee and it took


[SPOILER - highlight to read]: Scott had nano machines injected into Logan's body to slow down his HF enough for the curse to hold permanently. Then turned it off when they assaulted Utopia. Logan built an immunity while a vampire so shrugged it off upon it returning.
Sabs won't have this advantage.
Plus Dracula's link to Cthon is stronger than a day old vampire like Jubilee.
Plus the pain Logan was in during the purge had him on the ground. Perfect beheading time.
This from a guy who took punishment in Hell.


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Logan had "days" to build an immunity to the curse due to the nanos in his body weakening his HF.
So when Scott reactivated his HF to full level it was ready to purge it.
A genius plan.
Sabs wouldn't have this advantage.
Apocalypse with total control of his molecular structure was seconds away from becoming a slave until he was saved by his mutant ally.

You have to also factor in-
Deafening thunderstorms and gale force winds focusing on Sabs.
Hundreds of rats rushing Sabs as a further distraction.
Vastly stronger strength. Superspeed.
I never said the bite would be permanent just temporary Sabs has never been biten before.
Drac is also a master swordsman. Sabs got his head cut off recently he isn't indestuctible.
He is a team killer Sabs aint.


Wolverine didn't need to build an immunity to Vampirism. What the f**k?

Wolverine's been able to reverse the effects of vampirism in mere panels as he did recently. The whole point of weakening his HF actually suggests that he couldn't be turned otherwise.

Sabes wouldn't have this advantage? No.. Sabres wouldn't NEED this advantage because his HF is even faster than Wolverine's.

Dracula's strength is all over the place. Classic Drac? Sure. The guy backhanded Surfer and completely pwned Colossus, but he ALSO had problems with Blade, and WBN... Even at his highest strength levels, strength doesn't work on Creed. Even being as strong as Herc didn't help Killpower keep Creed from tearing into him.
His speed? show it. Cause again, you wanted to bring up the Wolverine example... and Wolvie blitzed him.

laughing out loud Sabretooth got his head cut off by the Muramasa sword.... Do you even understand what that blade IS?! (or what you're talking about for that matter...)

The thing was confirmed that it could dice through Colossus and nullified healing factors. It spliced things at the molecular level and the only thing that was shown to stop it was itself, or a loophole laser power built from memories. And both times resulted in a catastrophic explosions knocking out every superhuman in the immediate area...

To my knowledge this isn't a sword fight and Drac isn't bringing one so it's largely irrelevant anyways.

And laughing ARE. YOU. JOKING?! Lol lol lol!

Sabretooth has been a team stomper since he was in his classic days.

He's killed an entire onslaught of demons from the Darkhold by ripping them apart and he was making fun of it.


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Drac wins handily, too versatile.


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The only way he wins is by the vamp bite working... and the vamp bite working is definitely up for debate.


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Drac wins handily, too versatile.

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Originally posted by Bentley
Drac wins handily, too versatile.


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The only way he wins is by the vamp bite working... and the vamp bite working is definitely up for debate.



Hypnosis?


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Sabe wouldnt give Dracula the time and Sabe will power and personality would fight it buying him time to avoid it.


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Here comes a Marvel Dracula history lesson!!!! Dracula drank Varnea's blood when he became King of the Vampires. Drinking the blood of the first vampire, amped him and made Dracula the most powerful vampire (other than Varnea) at a strength level of 1 ton. He was latter empowered by the Dark Hold increasing his strength level to 4 tons. Sabretooth is stronger than Dracula, at least twice as strong.

Swatting Colossus doesn't make Dracula class 100 anymore than Sabretooth beating on Rogue, Ms Marvel, Wendigo or Caliban makes him class 100.


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Here comes a Marvel Dracula history lesson!!!! Dracula drank Varnea's blood when he became King of the Vampires. Drinking the blood of the first vampire, amped him and made Dracula the most powerful vampire (other than Varnea) at a strength level of 1 ton. He was latter empowered by the Dark Hold increasing his strength level to 4 tons. Sabretooth is stronger than Dracula, at least twice as strong.


I thought his strength lvl was 6, anyway I bet you can't prove that about Sabretooth.

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Swatting Colossus doesn't make Dracula class 100 anymore than Sabretooth beating on Rogue, Ms Marvel, Wendigo or Caliban makes him class 100.


It might not but it proves hes badass.


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I thought his strength lvl was 6, anyway I bet you can't prove that about Sabretooth.





I can pretty easily. Sabre-tooth was able to break through a force field (prior to his final upgrade no less) that as designed to stop a raging bull elephant. Bull Elephant can generate over 10 tons of force.

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I can pretty easily. Sabre-tooth was able to break through a force field (prior to his final upgrade no less) that as designed to stop a raging bull elephant. Bull Elephant can generate over 10 tons of force.


Yeah I could argue swatting Collous takes more than 4 tons of force. That could also by hyperbole. Anything else?


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I can pretty easily. Sabre-tooth was able to break through a force field (prior to his final upgrade no less) that as designed to stop a raging bull elephant. Bull Elephant can generate over 10 tons of force.
Just wondering, how do you know how much force a Bull Elephant can produce?


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Just wondering, how do you know how much force a Bull Elephant can produce?


They can weigh up to 4.6 tons and run at 22mph?


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