Registered: Jan 2006
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As noted. there was a giant starship shooting at him, and kenobi wanted him alive for questioning. Jango ran away anyway. Dude knew he was fighting a losing battle. kenobi floored him with a jump kick.
No "Canon" ever states this.
More interesting? Sure. Realistic? No. it's not realistic even within the Star Wars universe, which thrives on poor logic and fictional basis.
In which case it wouldn't be a 100:1 ratio.
The issue is that I believe Traviss has stated that the Clone army was, in it's entirety, only 3 million men strong, which doesn't make any sense. It's nonsensical fellation IMO.
But even then they'd still be outnumbered at least a hundred to one. It just... doesn't add up to me.
Karen Traviss's minimalism is a major problem with the series. The idea that the mighty Galactic Republic fielded only three million clones is completely and irretrievably stupid. An army that size wouldn't be able to take over and hold a single planet much less a galaxy with a million or better planets. If we take the ANH novelization at its world and the Empire consisted of a million worlds (the figure changes), you're talking three clones per planet.
No, sorry. Nine million isn't even good. The GAR needed to field many billions.
And Jango headbutted him and then dropped him off a ledge. Kenobi couldn't even anticipate the consequences of his kick. "Oh not good!" wth. Maybe Kenobi should stop drinking on the job.
AOTC is canon. To me its obvious.
Yet, we all complain about Anakin's fall to the darkside being unrealistic...etc. Sounds in space are one thing. I think this is a another.
Then we get into the 500:1s. Clones rule!
I agree. I think everyone does lol.
Clones are "immensely superior to droids" One clone isn't as effective (or as dumb) as one droid. It IS canon that the clones are vastly outnumbered. Thats whats makes the war interesting. If the clones were equal in # to droids, the war would have been over in weeks because the CIS army would have been wiped out.
Mandalorians are pure canon. They are in 3 films.
Also the TV series is canon, its just not movie canon, but above all other EU. That has been WELL established. I know this breaks your precious system...
Registered: Sep 2000
Location: Chelmsford, Essex, UK
First of all, in absolutely no way at all has the tv series canon been determined; this is still a wait-and-see area. As far as this section is concerned, wer are not here to discuss the EU, just the tv (and by extension, the films are obviously canon to the tv series as well).
Secondly it is amazingly plain that Windu dispatched Jango with extreme ease; he was not even slightly troubled.
Thirdly- yup, sorry, any interpretation of what 'Mandalorian' means is all EU, and it is not appropriate to this area.
That's how it is; please do not argue it.
"We've got maybe seconds before Darth Rosenberg grinds everybody into Jawa burgers and not one of you buds has the midi-chlorians to stop her!"
Both Boba and Jango were bounty hunters. They are talented, skilled, and morally ambiguous.
Jango wanted a son. Mandalorians are family men.
Young Boba new how to fly and demonstrated tactics from an early age. Tactical and combat skill are important Mandalorian values.
Jango and Boba worked as a team. Father son relationships are important. Children are expected to perform.
Both spoke and understood a non-basic, uncommon language (Kenobi didn't appear to understand it). Basic is not their primary languange.
Both wear the same style armor, but in different colors with slight modifications. Armor is an important part of Mandalorian culture, but so is expressing a degree of customization and individuality.
We can't interpret this? Seriously? ALL of what I'm talking about now, 100%, is interpreted from the films. AOTC. ESB. ROTJ. Its simply asinine and ignorant to claim that you can't interpret ANYTHING from two characters that get more screentime and dialogue than major villians (Dooku, etc) in the saga. The 4th largest figure on the AOTC poster is JANGO, behind Skywalker, Amidala, and Kenobi. Mandalorians are important to the films. They get a lot of screentime for sideline characters. Any twit who thinks about movies instead of just watching them can interpret beyond what is spoken in a film.
I wouldn't argue it here if what I was arguing was EU. I've been here for years and I know the rules. I'm arguing because queeq made an ignorant statement, which you repeated.
Do you deny that the floors on the Death Star were shiny? Because no one in the movie comment "Damn! These floors are shiny!"
Likewise, do you deny the Emperor was evil? Or that the Empire was oppressive? That Luke had a somewhat tenuous relationship with Owen and Beru? That the rebels felt a moral right in fighting the Empire?
All these things are interpretations from the films. You and queeq would claim they are EU under your current logic. If you disagree that they are EU, you two should stop being hypocrites and allow me some interpretation under the films. Not on EU sources. On the films.
This all stems from a concept that Jango and Boba are in fact Mandalorians. I know their armour was considered Mandalorian, but I can't remember any canon source saying they are Mandalorian themselves.
In any case, I just watched the episode. Floppy hat aside, Cad Bane was actually pretty bad ass and the episode did a good job of portraying the bad guys as bad people, rather than incompetent idiots that the Jedi can mow down.