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Lestov16
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they aren't being ambiguous about it like they were with Dumpstergate. Pretty much all of the cast and crew have confirmed it, and Riggs has even expressed a certain level of disappointment.

And even if they are lying and Carl isn't dead, it would still be the official shark jump of the show. The writers caught hell for the Glenn fakeout. This fakeout would kill all credibility of the show, especially given how we have been shown how imminently fatal walker bites are. And again, any cure, for either bites or the latent infection, would shift the status quo of the show immeasurably. If Carl somehow had immunity, the entire Saviors war would immediately be put on the back burner, and as we see by S8 p2's preview, the war is still going on, so there has been no status quo shift.


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It's rather telling when a random walker apparently had a more notable impact during the mid-season than anything the Saviors did. Seriously, for all their bluster, they did not achieve all that much. [SPOILER - highlight to read]: They blew up some buildings, swung their dicks around, and what? Killed some random nobody, and captured Ezekiel, who gave himself up (and who will probably be rescued by Morgan anyway). And in the process, they lost even more people. At least when Rick and them went on the offensive, they not only managed to take out multiple enemy outposts and weaken the sanctuary, but also killed a lot more people overall than they lost. Even then, the only large group of casualties they took was mainly down to carelessness on behalf of Ezekiel. Not because of some amazing show by the Saviors, who promptly got nearly completely solo'd by Carol shortly after.


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You just know that when they are writing episodes and a Season Finale is coming up they just start making who should Live/Die decisions by flipping a coin.


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Either way, I stopped watching this show after season 4. I’ve only scene a few scenes here and there on YouTube, this latest one included.


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My favorite show is done.


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Game of Thrones is far superior to the Walking Dead.


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It's shit too.


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It's shit too.
Nah, you're projecting again.


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Nope, it is shit too.


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Nope, it is shit too.
Ratings say otherwise. Your opinion does not matter, kiddo.


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You're all over the place, sheep.


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Stay on topic, please.


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This has turned into the most laughable and ridiculous steaming pile of dung on TV.


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I watched Negan’s intro, censored and uncensored, and was very impressed. After Abraham and Glen were killed, it was all down hill from there.


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Stay on topic, please.
I try to get him to but it's hard. Back to the topic Negan has been an unbelievably annoying villain whose rants never seem to stop. They need to kill him off sooner rather than later since he's wearing our his welcome. Ratings are falling and the writers being so convinced this new villain is going to be awesome really dropped the ball there.

I still hold out hope the Governor comes back or we get another capable villain before this show completely loses its entertainment value.


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I hate Negan. I don't know about his comic book character, but his TV character comes off as such a...well...comic book character. It feels like the writers are trying so hard to make him "the ultimate villain", the Darth Vader of television, and instead he comes off as cartoonish, like a villainous wannabe version of The Fonz.

They are trying to make him both likeable and hatebable, cowardly and tough, selfish and utilitarian. He supposedly has a legitimate belief that he is saving the world, yet he acts like a self centered dictator. I can't help but compare him to two far better fictional villains: Napoleon in Animal Farm, and Marlo Stanfield from The Wire. Both of them are, like Negan, totalitarian dictators, but it is clear that they are selfish and use power purely to serve themselves with no regards for their "constituents", as pretty much all real life totalitarian dictators do. On the utilitarian side of the spectrum, I can compare him to Sebastian Monroe from Revolution, an inferior show, but a superior villain IMO. Like Negan, Monroe is a post apocalyptic totalitarian warlord who extorts villages, but unlike Negan, Monroe doesn't act like an immature sadistic manchild, instead acting as a ruthless and remorseless disciplined and draconian commander, and it is believable that he wants to rebuild the world under his iron fist. Negan is neither selfishly ruthless like Marlo, or a disciplined utilitarian like Monroe.

The Governor was a FAR better villain. He was a believable dictator, a selfish man who cared only for himself and lied to his people about his true nature to gain their loyalty. The Claimers were better as well. They were sadists like Negan, but at least they were honest about it. Negan just seems like a self deluded idiot in charge of an...infinite horde(?) of desperate idiots, and the fact that Rick has yet to call Negan out on this self delusion makes Rick seem stupid as well.


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I try to get him to but it's hard. Back to the topic Negan has been an unbelievably annoying villain whose rants never seem to stop. They need to kill him off sooner rather than later since he's wearing our his welcome. Ratings are falling and the writers being so convinced this new villain is going to be awesome really dropped the ball there.

I still hold out hope the Governor comes back or we get another capable villain before this show completely loses its entertainment value.


They ****ed up the governor too. Botched the whole feud with Michonne.


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The Governor died like a bitch, prone and whimpering for his life


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They ****ed up the governor too. Botched the whole feud with Michonne.
Comic Governor was beyond disgusting though


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They ****ed up the governor too. Botched the whole feud with Michonne.
The Michonne angle wasn't perfect but the Governor was the highlight of the show.


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