Im thinking Spider-Man. Hes gone through so much more with nothing to turn to but his own will. That time he had to relive all his fights, Morlun, maximum carnage, worthy thing, P5 Colossus. Its insane some of the stuff he just takes on his shoulders all because of great power/great responsibility. If it came down to having to protect somebody, spidey hands down.
It's debatable. Both have heart at the same level imo. Hard to make an accurate judgment when both of their roles are different. I think Spiderman has a lot more weight on his shoulders since he is more of a solo hero so he would have more showings of probably throwing in the towel since he watches over a city by himself.
Point taken. While such a thing would be quite tragic, one can actually eventually get used to the idea of being a freakshow (Real life ppl have done so, after all) and eventually settle in.
Peter gets highs in his life followed by extreme lows. The rollercoaster of fortune and tragedy the guy faces regularly is enough to make most ppl just crumple up.
It's like: Gets superpowers, uncle dies. Gets girl of his dreams. She dies. Gets married. Have that taken away. Etc.
Yes good point. Peter has continued to be Spidey through his ups and downs (which will make most quit). Thing hasn't really had any roller coaster lifestyle to actually know if he would quit too.
But as far as fighting, I would say Ben. He fights people knowingly out of his level. Spidey would either run or just use his brains or agility. I'm thinking Ben is the last one standing, mainly because of the Champion showing and him trying to fight WWH.
Well, Spiderman DID beat Firelord simply due to "heart". He's punched enemies that made his hand bleed from punching them til he brought them down. He's been beaten to a pulp (did he get one of his eyes ripped out once?) and still kept chugging by enemies way out of his league and somehow he managed to pull out a win. He's stood against enemies he KNEW would kill him easily and gladly and still took them on anyway. His entire career is littered with this.
I mean who has Thing fought way out of his league and end up winning due to pure "heart"? Does Thing's hands even hurt everytime he punches someone?
I recall spidey running a few times and using agility and brains to fight. Thing never ran. This averages Spidey down imo. Thing fought WWH, who is far beyond him. Thing knew he couldn't win. Thing fought Champion and was beaten to a bloody pulp and still didn't quit. It wasn't like Champion was trying to kill someone he loved. Spidey is not fighting someone like that for no dire reason.
Firelord feat wasn't heart. He just used speed mostly and kept at it. Thing would have done the same if he had Spidey s powers. Put Thing in spideys place and he would have achieved everything Peter did minus the running away or using smarts to win.
Thing doesn't have to run because he's phucking invulnerable and can tank almost anything. Spidey doesn't have invulnerability in his powerset. When spidey is fighting out of his league its almost always against someone who could kill him with one good clean shot. Thing takes on guys what 1-2 tiers above him when Spidey doesn't blink to regularly take on guys 4-5 tiers above him.
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Thing's power is being pretty much being invulnerable and strong enough to at least keep up with most opponents. Again, him not running away and fighting smart (while Peter does) doesn't mean he has more heart. It just means that the way he fights uses less brains and is more straight forward.
Again, beating Firelord was far beyond what Spiderman should have been able to achieve, but stubborness, smarts and heart kept him at it til he pulled it off. You saying, hypothetically, Thing would do the same thing, is just that. Post "feats" at least so we can compare. Heat isn't just about courage, it's about being able to power thru impossible odds by sheer will.
Thing is, this isn't the only time, you also have to consider Morlun, The Sinister Six (all together), etc. and worse of all, working for JJ Jameson. Spiderman pulls the impossible off on a regular basis on his own, with no big brain to help.
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Ben was a pro quarterback, the star wrestler, the ,most popular kid in school....then became a hideous monster only a blind girl could love.
Spidey was a loser geek who gained the ability to dodge any fight he wanted, yet can dish out plenty of damage himself. Married a supermodel. Had the support of a loving aunt, and a steady job.
Ben became a hero despite having the origins of a villain.
What does that have to do with who has more heart? One more thing to consider is Ben was a grown man when he made his decision to become a hero backed by nigh invulnerability and a billionaire Super genius while Peter was pretty much still a child deciding to take on crime himself. Unfair comparisson.
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