My phrase was more about the reason than about the worship. The fact of recognizing everything in the universe is linked by a similar nature is something you can benefit from.
Also discussing about worship would be too depending on definitions for my taste. Use veneration if it better fits your relationship with the world.
But how does he not crave our attention and yet tells us we can't worship anyone but him? Why would he care if he doesn't want our attention?
There are a lot more nastier people out there I could just as easily compare him to if you'd like.
I do like fire..it's what lights my weed. But as a Christian shouldn't you not want anyone to be burning eternally in hell? Not kewl.
__________________ Chicken Boo, what's the matter with you? You don't act like the other chickens do. You wear a disguise to look like human guys, but you're not a man you're a Chicken Boo.
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Though keep in mind this topic is specifically about the biblical God. Which is why I asked about the commandments, because saying God gives us the "chance" to become closer to him through worship makes it seem like we have a choice, and the commandments make it seem like..nope, you don't really have a choice in the matter. If you want to worship someone it has to be God and only God.
__________________ Chicken Boo, what's the matter with you? You don't act like the other chickens do. You wear a disguise to look like human guys, but you're not a man you're a Chicken Boo.
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Well, if you respect the spirit of the commandments you shouldn't be destroying the rest of Creation. According to the Bible Creation is good, so you're at least keeping it in shape.
Not sure if God needs such thing, you can think it as a bonus.
The Commandements preach respect on the Creation and according to the Bible the Creation is good, so the Commandements should protect it to some degree.
You talk about not destroying creation, but then what was God doing when he flooded the world and killed everyone save one guy. Oh and the animals of course, the sweetheart spared the animals.
Which either means God is very confused, or he just feels "well, this shit doesn't actually apply to me".
But yes God doesn't technically *need* anything. Maybe a good therapist. But he definitely "wants" things, and it's hard to say he doesn't want us to worship him. If he didn't want that he wouldn't create specific rules saying how we totally need to worship him.
Don't get me wrong if I had god-like power I'd demand worship, but then..I'm a dick.
It's also time to be brutally honest with ourselves: if there is some immortal nigh omnipotent being in existence then whatever it does..it most likely does out of boredom. Not out of love or some grand plan or because it cares specifically about us as individuals. The universe is what..13-15 billion years old at the very least? Gotta pass the time somehow.
__________________ Chicken Boo, what's the matter with you? You don't act like the other chickens do. You wear a disguise to look like human guys, but you're not a man you're a Chicken Boo.
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If we are going to be truly honest with ourselves, it's time we stop pretending we know what a nigh omnipotent being is thinking.
__________________ There's a man goin' 'round takin' names.
An' he decides who to free and who to blame.
Everybody won't be treated all the same.
There'll be a golden ladder reaching down.
When the man comes around.
We have to try, otherwise there'd be no point in replying to the thread.
__________________ Chicken Boo, what's the matter with you? You don't act like the other chickens do. You wear a disguise to look like human guys, but you're not a man you're a Chicken Boo.
No, that's being both arrogant and ignorant. You either subscribe to a God or you don't. If you don't, you don't get to sit there and dissect his motives if he theoretically existed. I've had this discussion ad nauseam. The fallible don't get to pretend they understand the infallible.
__________________ There's a man goin' 'round takin' names.
An' he decides who to free and who to blame.
Everybody won't be treated all the same.
There'll be a golden ladder reaching down.
When the man comes around.
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