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Would it be ok to make Jewish Kids affirm "Jesus Christ is the Son of God"?

You know, those aren't magic words, no thunder will strike them and make them into Captain Marvel.

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You're missing the point. Young children have very impressionable minds. Making them recite "The only god is Allah" or "There is no god but Allah" will leave a lasting impression on them. It's funny how they just skimmed over the chapter or course on Christianity and yet they're devoting a ton of time to Islam. If all they're doing is teaching tolerance then they shouldn't be making kids recite that garbage. Why can't they teach them about it without making them say that? It's disgusting what they're doing. If I had kids and they were forced to do that at some school I wouldn't hesitate to remove them from said school. Even homeschooling would be better than brainwashing children to favor Islam over Christianity.
I don't blame those parents for being so upset.

God have mercy on our nation for turning away from the One true God and teaching kids blasphemous trash like that.

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good lawd have mersay

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if i'm being perfectly honest, no i don't really care for islam as an ideology

i dated a muslim girl for years, i was in love with her. she was pretty liberal and all that, she basically just vaguely believed in islam but wasn't particularly strict about it obviously since she dated me and i was a nonbeliever.

her parents were more conservative, and i never was able to openly tell them i dated her as a result because they wouldn't accept it and would disown her. and she basically agreed with me about the things wrong with islam and would say oh thats just wahhabism or whatever, not real islam.

but even so, with all that, she would occasionally express a negative image of herself as a sinner, cause she had slept with like 3 other guys before me. and she thought that made her kind of whorish. even though i would tell her that's not a big deal at all.

she would basically try to convince herself that dating me was alright though and god would approve. she said something about how the quran says its ok for mulsims to date christians... and when i reminded her that i wasn't a chrisitian but an atheist she didn't respond. like that sort of cognitive dissonance... got the sense she was just clinging to the religion as a form of cultural identity... she had every inclination otherwise to be liberal and pro sexual freedom and liberation... but every once in a while that islamic sentiment would shine through and she'd seem to hold on to some residual sexual repression as a result

i've seen similar shit with christians, but tbh it just seems a bit more extreme in islam. that being said in certain parts of the country it's openly popular to hate on muslims as a group as so as a sort of self conscious over correction, many liberals are self conscious about criticizing islam because it might seem ethnocentric.

What's the problem though?

Not for your personal relationship, but what's the problem if people like that live in the west? So they make themselves feel guilty about having sex with you, big deal, hardly a reason to think they're going to destroy our civilization.

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God have mercy on our nation for turning away from the One true God and teaching kids blasphemous trash like that.

You do know that Allah, God and Yahweh are one and the same? They even follow the teachings of good old J.C. they just don't believe he's the son of God.

More importantly, God doesn't exist, but I think that ship has sailed for you.

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What's the problem though?

Not for your personal relationship, but what's the problem if people like that live in the west? So they make themselves feel guilty about having sex with you, big deal, hardly a reason to think they're going to destroy our civilization.

did i say destroy our civilization?

cause i thought i just said i don't care for that kind of mentality

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http://aclj.org/religious-liberty/m...-public-schools

it's teaching them what the creeds are; where does it say they're converting them, exactly?

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Literally has nothing to do with Bardock.

Did you know UK churches are empty and Mosques are full. A culture that believes in something will rule the culture that does not.

You're not suggesting Sharia law will take root in Western/Central Europe, are you?

Because they tried that shit before, and it didn't go so well for them.

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did i say destroy our civilization?

cause i thought i just said i don't care for that kind of mentality

Never mind, just read your other post. It appears we actually agree for the most part, my bad.

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it's teaching them what the creeds are; where does it say they're converting them, exactly?

You are joking right? Would it be ok to make young jewish kids write "Jesus is the Son of God"

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You are joking right? Would it be ok to make young jewish kids write "Jesus is the Son of God"

If done in the same context, yes. The difference is, Jewish kids growing up in America are already surrounded by Christians and the Christian teachings, they're most likely already familiar with them and don't need to be taught in a similar way.

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I don't think it would even be allowed, and the children's parents would flip shit.

You realize here the parents are the one's who are upset.

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Yeah, there's definitely a double standard. The white Christian majority are once again the victims of the liberal, Islam-loving minority.

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Jews are not Christians though. Actually Jews are more similar to Muslims, they just believe in a different teaching.

Obama even said he was the closet thing to a Jew that has ever been in office.

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Ok man, whatever you want, white Christians and Jews are again the victims of the Muslim-hugging left.

Also, seriously, you do know Christianity is also very similar to Islam and that they believe in a lot of the same teachings?

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Yes I know that, but that is not an excuse is it?

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An excuse for what? Why do they need an excuse to teach children about a world religion so that they don't turn into bigots?

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Clarify that please.

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You are joking right? Would it be ok to make young jewish kids write "Jesus is the Son of God"

If they're taking notes, yes. Which is all they seem to really be doing.

Acting like they're being converted through an education system that barely tolerates science books is getting ahead of yourself, imo.

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