Wolverine vs. Spider-Man

Originally posted by Creshosk
you're a peak human with a healing factor, enhanced sense and adamantium bones with the knowledge of fighting that wolverine has?

Wow.

Imagine you are a superhuman with super strength, agility, equilibrium, speed, endurance ( not like wolvie's of course), webbing like steel cable, and wall crawling so he cant get close, spidey can pretend he didn't see him.

Skeleton has been negated since wolverine has this large area in his torso called a stomach, go figure.

Originally posted by Creshosk
Since his healing factor allows him to heal as its been shown with a 100% consistency in his fights with Spiderman.

You don't need to heal if you can ward off attacks like juggy, right?

Originally posted by Creshosk
Marvel wrote the fight, between spiderman and wolverine, in a cemetary, on a roof and in a training room, three different times. So now we're not using marvels characters?

These were not quite defeat and left unanswered questions, just because it DIDN'T happen, doesn't mean it CAN'T.

Originally posted by Creshosk
Hard proof from marvel.

Hard proof no explanation.

Originally posted by Creshosk
Not really, 100% consistency in the hostile encounters between the two.

And nowhere else..............

Originally posted by Creshosk
More than your're doing, you're attacking the character so you can discard Marvel's characters. . .

Sorry you percieve it like that, I'm attacking unanswered questions from obvious inconsistencies.

Originally posted by Creshosk
Marvel once again disagree's with you.

From the facts you use.

Originally posted by Creshosk
Funny how he hasn't. . . ever . . not even once.

I can picture many times he has, when he actually TRIES.

Originally posted by Creshosk
I use things that happened like they were hard scientific evidence.

Yep and imagine that the evidence is not consistent enough to proven as scientific fact, much less a law.

Originally posted by Creshosk
Bercause they're from marvel about marvel's characters, in a fight between marvel's characters. . .

From other writers, used religously for a forum in an hypothetical fight, with different conditions.

Originally posted by Creshosk
Because that's what marvel wanted to have happen for it's characters.

Depends on what characters at what time, for what reasons

Originally posted by Creshosk
100% consistency that you're ignoring. three times the same thing happens.

Nah quite different things happen in each situation, though spidey was weakened in them all.

Originally posted by Creshosk
It's better than your speculation that goes against preestablished fact.

No speculation only brainwork, because this is not showing what spidey does at his max potential, the intention of the thread.

Originally posted by Creshosk
You mean where Spiderman nuetrilized Nightcrawler's teleportation ability?

Where Nightcrawler undestimated spidey's speed and agility. I know that one.

Originally posted by Creshosk
Spiderman has neutrilization powers. . wow. . .

Hey its what YOU said in your own previous post.

Collosus can't knock out wolverine but Spiderman can. Pssssssh. [/B][/QUOTE]

Thats cute , weaker characters seem to have a better chance at that hmmmmmmmmm?

Originally posted by Creshosk
Wolverine has around an 800 lbs strength, and can't hit a 160 pound guy across a rooftop?

Now who's not using common sense?

Did spiderman suddenly gain 900+ pounds? Wouldn't he just break his own bones beyond the suspension of disbelif break now more so? Or did spiderman also gain adamantium bones?

There's people in this world who bench more than 800, and they couldn't backhand me 15 yards.

There's a difference between lifting and hitting, its been proving that characters that lift less can hit harder, just not in this case.

Sorry I wont be responding to you in a while Cresh, but I want to read THIS Wolvie and Spidey thread to its entirety.

Oh and be nice to the new guys ,k. 😛

Originally posted by CorderaMitchell
Imagine you are a superhuman with super strength, agility, equilibrium, speed, endurance ( not like wolvie's of course), webbing like steel cable, and wall crawling so he cant get close, spidey can pretend he didn't see him.

Skeleton has been negated since wolverine has this large area in his torso called a stomach, go figure.

Originally posted by CorderaMitchell
You don't need to heal if you can ward off attacks like juggy, right?

Originally posted by CorderaMitchell
These were not quite defeat

Originally posted by CorderaMitchell
and left unanswered questions, just because it DIDN'T happen, doesn't mean it CAN'T.

Originally posted by CorderaMitchell
Hard proof no explanation.

Originally posted by CorderaMitchell
And nowhere else..............

Originally posted by CorderaMitchell
Sorry you percieve it like that, I'm attacking unanswered questions from obvious inconsistencies.

Originally posted by CorderaMitchell
From the facts you use.

Originally posted by CorderaMitchell
I can picture many times he has, when he actually TRIES.

Originally posted by CorderaMitchell
Yep and imagine that the evidence is not consistent enough to proven as scientific fact, much less a law.

Originally posted by CorderaMitchell
From other writers, used religously for a forum in an hypothetical fight, with different conditions.

Originally posted by CorderaMitchell
Depends on what characters at what time, for what reasons

What's consistent? What variable remain constant in their fights?

Spiderman hits wolverine. each fight, yes.
Wolverine stays concious. Each fight, yes.

Spiderman hits wolverine, wolverine stays consious. this is something that has remained 100% consistant.

What makes you think this will change? Because you like Spiderman more?

Originally posted by CorderaMitchell
Nah quite different things happen in each situation, though spidey was weakened in them all.

Originally posted by CorderaMitchell
No speculation only brainwork,

Originally posted by CorderaMitchell
because this is not showing what spidey does at his max potential, the intention of the thread.

"I'm pounding away with everything I've got"

He hit max potential for that fight and failed to knock wolverine out.

I'm already giving him the benefit of the doubt that he fricken hit adamantium with 10 tons of force and HIS bones didn't break, what were you saying before? 3 POUNDS of force? he hit with 20,000 pounds of force, and his bones didn't break. . .

Originally posted by CorderaMitchell
Where Nightcrawler undestimated spidey's speed and agility. I know that one.

Originally posted by CorderaMitchell
Hey its what YOU said in your own previous post.

Originally posted by CorderaMitchell
Thats cute , weaker characters seem to have a better chance at that hmmmmmmmmm?

Because "weaker characters have a better chance"?

Or is spiderman the exception to your own rule because you like him more?

Originally posted by CorderaMitchell
There's people in this world who bench more than 800, and they couldn't backhand me 15 yards.

And why couldn't they? You weigh 900 pounds?

Originally posted by CorderaMitchell
There's a difference between lifting and hitting, its been proving that characters that lift less can hit harder, just not in this case.

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I think wolverine would lose. If Spiderman go all out on Wolverine he won't stand a chance. Spiderman just web him up and beat him crazy. And Spiderman is way stronger then Wolverine; I can't even imagine Wolverine taking a couple of punches from a guy lifts 15 tons. Spiderman is stronger, faster, haves long range attacks and better reflexs.

Spiderman 7/10 thats if he doesn't take the fight serious. 🙂

YOu and that smiley again,

BAD dvampire.

Originally posted by dvampire
I think wolverine would lose.

Originally posted by Darthbetta
If Spiderman go all out on Wolverine he won't stand a chance.

"I can't get him to stop smiling."

Originally posted by Darthbetta
Spiderman just web him up and beat him crazy.

Originally posted by dvampire
And Spiderman is way stronger then Wolverine;

Originally posted by dvampire
I can't even imagine Wolverine taking a couple of punches from a guy lifts 15 tons.

Originally posted by dvampire
Spiderman is stronger, faster, haves long range attacks and better reflexs.

Originally posted by dvampire
Spiderman 7/10 thats if he doesn't take the fight serious. 🙂

He doesn't win. It's pretty evidentyou haven't read any of the encounters between the two. . .

Exactly and how the hell is Wolvie ever going to tag him, answer he can't 😄

Originally posted by dvampire
I think wolverine would lose. If Spiderman go all out on Wolverine he won't stand a chance. Spiderman just web him up and beat him crazy. And Spiderman is way stronger then Wolverine; I can't even imagine Wolverine taking a couple of punches from a guy lifts 15 tons. Spiderman is stronger, faster, haves long range attacks and better reflexs.

Spiderman 7/10 thats if he doesn't take the fight serious. 🙂

Originally posted by whirlysplat
Exactly and how the hell is Wolvie ever going to tag him, answer he can't 😄

short, sweet, polite,and simple, you guys are the best on our side, I can take some lessons, I'need to get back to reading this though, lol

Originally posted by Creshosk
When spiderman screws up, or tires, or both.

Spidey has pretty good endurance and Wolcvie will be pasted by then. His Spider sense makes it much more likely it will be Wolvie screwing up 😄

Originally posted by whirlysplat
Spidey has pretty good endurance and Wolcvie will be pasted by then. His Spider sense makes it much more likely it will be Wolvie screwing up 😄

And how will Wolverine be "pasted" by then?

Spidey hits, harder, faster and very accurately, he comes at opponents from all angles he is not like the martial art type fighters, Wolvie likes, he is somthing completely "different. His blows are very accurate he has ranged attacks with webs. I agree Wolvie could cut these but Spidey can blind him, pull him over etc very easily, so unbalancing Wolvie, Spidey is so much stronger its ridiculous. Wolvie loses this 8 out of ten times 😄
oiginally posted by Creshosk [/i]
Wolverine can afford to screw up more than spiderman can. As Spiderman has pounded away on Wolverine, and wolverine brushed it off.

And how will Wolverine be "pasted" by then? [/QUOTE]

Originally posted by whirlysplat
Spidey hits, harder, faster and very accurately, he comes at opponents from all angles he is not like the martial art type fighters, Wolvie likes, he is somthing completely "different. His blows are very accurate he has ranged attacks with webs. I agree Wolvie could cut these but Spidey can blind him, pull him over etc very easily, so unbalancing Wolvie, Spidey is so much stronger its ridiculous. Wolvie loses this 8 out of ten times 😄

originally posted by Creshosk
[B]Wolverine can afford to screw up more than spiderman can. As Spiderman has pounded away on Wolverine, and wolverine brushed it off.

And how will Wolverine be "pasted" by then?

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Spidey's strength is virtually a non-factor as Wolverine's healing factor and adamantium can handle it.

Originally posted by Never
Interesting, all of this and Elektra beat his ass silly and had him clutching his LUNGS (she punctured both of them) and left for dead. But this is about Spiderman vs. Wolverine...

Some stuff Wolverine has done? Get his ass almost killed by Elektra, concede that Elektra WOULD kill him, get stopped cold in his tracks by Daredevil with a karate chop to the throat, get stalemated by Punisher AND Archangel (during the story arc in Genosha when Jim Lee drew him), get knocked out by Omega Red (X-Men relaunch with Jim Lee), had his claws broken by Sabertooth, get stalemated by Sabertooth, get frightened to death by Cyber, struggle MIGHTILY against Silver Samurai (Uncanny #173), get absentmindedly backhanded by Spiderman in Secret Wars #3 when he ran through all of the X-Men without getting touched (since we are referencing X-Men fights).

Hand ninjas? Daredevil with Stick and Stone waded through "hundreds of Hand ninjas." They did it here:

Elektra singlehandedly killed countless numbers of members of the Hand. Hand ninjas are merely fodder. Not impressive.

Silver Samurai? LoL, he was getting his ass beaten. He broke Samurai's arm in the end, however - and Samurai ranks where on the list of Marvel's greatest martial artists? Behind Elektra, Shang Chi, Gamora, Daredevil, Iron Fist, Black Panther, Captain America - i.e. WAY down there. Not impressive.

He is a master of multiple forms of martial arts and gets his ass routinely handed to him by...masters of multiple forms of martial arts. Not impressive.

Am sorry to say that Spiderman is ROUTINELY written as a better - hmm, more RESOURCEFUL combatant than Wolverine is. In pure h2h one THINKS Wolverine would have the upper hand based on pure martial arts skills, but Spiderman has developed his own eclectic fighting style - not to mention that his reflexes are faster than a human's by a factor of 15. Wolverine HAS no superspeed and CANNOT "dodge bullets" in the same manner that Spiderman can.

Spiderman is quicker, faster, oodles stronger, and has his Spidey sense.

One can make a WEAK argument that Wolverine can defeat Spiderman - however, how can one defeat what one cannot TOUCH?

Do recall Daredevil slaughtering Sabertooth in Daredevil #213. Sabertooth landed a few blows while Daredevil was burdened with the hostage; however, after the hostage escaped, Daredevil kicked Sabertooth's ass without being touched. Sabertooth ran and ducked into a sewer to escape.

The same Sabertooth that routinely gives Wolverine fits. Daredevil stomped him. Sabertooth easily carved up Wolverine.

Spiderman > Daredevil. Is it really necessary to continue...?

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Yep that invincible skeleton is great but, invincible or not it does not support near half the force of an attack.

When you are hit harder damage goes to the brain and other major area's without so much as a crack to the skull,

Concussions = brain bruises, = wolverine's skull is nigh invincible, but it cannot absorb all of the concussive force.

Wolverine doesn't heal instantly, he's been ko'ed by a bullet, took two days to heal from an explosion. He's nursed his wounds many times, I guess we should have spidey hit hiim in the throat then, he will die, it only takes 8 pounds of pressure to the throat to kill, spidey does how many ponds now???

Originally posted by Creshosk

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Spidey's strength is virtually a non-factor as Wolverine's healing factor and adamantium can handle it. [/QUOTE]

Bad writing happens I'veseen Cyclops beat Wolvie down 😄

wolvies sure doing really well in that pick eh, looks like he was starting to " get the message", crazy people smile while they are getting chopped up.

claws come out, kicks it into high drive, so does spidey, and his high drive is much much more.

Web him , slam him from a few stories high, he surely cant wake up from that right away eh?

Originally posted by whirlysplat
*Ahem*

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Spidey's strength is virtually a non-factor as Wolverine's healing factor and adamantium can handle it.

Bad writing happens I'veseen Cyclops beat Wolvie down 😄 [/QUOTE]

cyclops sure has, with his fists, and daredevil did to, you can't expect them to let wolvie look invicible against the weaker ones. noone would want to see it, same with spidey. 😈