Originally posted by xmarksthespot
Moving solely in straight lines? I.e. the equivalent of a laser.
hmmm it's interesting.. logic says no to be honest..
but comic books say yes...
and given flash's track record of being able to hit him only adds fuel to the fire so to speak...
Originally posted by xmarksthespot
Let's go with Superman moving at Mach 4 then in straight lines? 😊
not really.. he kinda suffers the same issues.. 😬
Originally posted by jinzinYou really don't think Flash at lightspeed or Superman and WW at Mach 4 could hit Wolverine/Spider-Man? ermm
hmmm it's interesting.. logic says no to be honest..but comic books say yes...
and given flash's track record of being able to hit him only adds fuel to the fire so to speak...
not really.. he kinda suffers the same issues.. 😬
Originally posted by jinzinYes. The trajectory is the character. They move in a straight line. The character can't initiate dodging until after Superman/Flash/WW has started their Mach 4/luminal velocity motion, just as apparently the characters in question dodge lasers and bullets and lightning and so on, after they've been projected.
then flash or superman are just moving? not necessarily trying to punch or alter their movement?
Originally posted by xmarksthespot
Yes. The trajectory is the character. They move in a straight line. The character can't initiate dodging until after Superman/Flash/WW has started their Mach 4/luminal velocity motion, just as apparently the characters in question dodge lasers and bullets and lightning and so on, after they've been projected.
Originally posted by jinzin
then flash or superman are just moving? not necessarily trying to punch or alter their movement?then again.. i'm torn.. logically.. we both know that strictly SHOULDN'T be possible.. but as the characters are actually depicted.. it IS..
so it's all contingent on one's suspension of belief.
Originally posted by xmarksthespot
Que sera sera. I suppose you suspend more than I do on the forums. But imho regardless of whether they have to move in straight lines or not. Wolverine or Spider-Man get hit by any of the three.That should sufficiently annoy both sides. I think my work is done. 😊
Nuhuh, Spidersense for the dodge!
What crafty bugger came up with "spidersense" anyway lol, it's rhetorical for your smart ones out there.
Originally posted by jinzin
but wolverine's dodged lightning before... 😕
curing infinity war 6...pfffft..... even classic crappy sabretooth has speedblitzed dd before he could react to it.. doesn't make classic sabretooth>>>>>>wolverine in speed does it?
Thought Sabretooth was faster than Wolverine? 😕
Originally posted by jinzin
the first time wolverine dodged cyk's blast was after it was fired.. what was that in? annual 6 maybe..
I'd love to see this. Specially since we've established Cyke's blasts move at the speed of light
Originally posted by jinzin
during origins you see that cyk fired 3 blasts at him while he's reaching for his sword.. he grabs the sword turns around and knocks the beams back at cyclops before they ever even reach him..😬
Honestly the deflection was nothing. He could have easily just read Cyke's moves, noted the direction of his head and when he was going to press the button and then slashed with the blast timed to him. Daredevil does it all the time with his billy clubs.
Originally posted by jinzin
I wouldn't say it was THAT obvious or THAT large of a gap though... I mean spiderman's thinking wolverine's faster than himself.. next; spiderman dodges a punch, wolverine dodges a punch and then spiderman hits him.. they would appear to be comparible...cause after that all we see is wolverine letting spiderman hit him in the face..
"here it comes"
which doesn't really negate wolverine's speed in the fight.. he just wasn't using it at the moment.
Wolverine let Spider-Man hit him in the face? Didn't seem that way to me at all. I read that as he saw it coming but it was too fast to react to. And considering Spider-Man's gotten more than one speed upgrade since then the gap will be considerably larger.
Originally posted by masterbruce
it IS BAD WRITING...BUT SO IS SPIDERMAN DODGING BULLETSNEITHER ARE THAT FAST
Only Quicksilver should be able to dodge bullets
However, if you accept Parker dodging bullets than you should accept Logan dodging lasers.
Most ridiculous statement ever. Spider-Man has been shown from YEARS ago to move faster than bullets. Not runnning speed, but in the actual ability to dodge bullets after they've left the chamber. You may say its impossible but thats his powers. I'm sure you've seen the scans with him versus Tracer with the bullets chasing him. Notice how, in short bursts, he's able to dodge them? Thats superior reflexes and speed baby.
I find it strange how people can always say Spider-man go into a fist fight with Logan but if he makes one wrong move he gets stabbed, but if Spider-man tries to web Logan, Logan is suddenly going to gain an incredible ability of dodging webbing webbing and more webbing constantly at all times and if he does get hit he's going to cut through it at warp speed and get away from more of Spider-mans webs. I mean sure he can cut through it fast but what if it hits him in an arm and knocks him over, what if he is hit with a paste over his face he isn't going to be able to get it off before Spidey can get more webbing on him.
And not only will he dodge all this webbing but he will be able to close the gap on the faster character and stab him.
It just seems to me that Wolverine shouldn't be able to get Spider-man if he fights at range and wants to stay there, especially in a cityscape. Yes if Spider-man fights at close range eventually he will be hit but the fact that people say that Wolverine will be able to cut webbing out of his way and still gain on Spider-man who could be jumping through the air and firing more webbing to slow Logan down and then tab Spidey just seems stupid to me.