Wolverine vs. Spider-Man

The Wolverine vs Spider-man joke is long running but it's not very funny. There was a time where Spider-man b!tch-slaps him across the room after he sprung towards Spidey with more battle experience than Cap according to his bio. Now he's a guy who would murder Venom and Carnage while blindfolded. Well unbreakable bones and a healing factor that can regenerate from a single cell do make for a guy who's hard to beat.

The problem for Wolverine is that when you put his weapons up against Spider-man's you have a mismatch as Spidey's webs are ranged and Wolverines claws are close-combat. The one thing that has remained consistent with Spider-man is his accuracy and versatility with his webbing. He regularly hits targets at long range without even trying while web swinging and does this while thinking about other things. When concentrating he has caught small objects with the webbing while he and the object are both in midair.( his fight with kangaroo man) Kain, who had a spidersense, was webbed in the face so Wolverine will not dodge webbing without PIS. Spider-man can stay out of Wolverines strike range and pour on the webbing, and Wolverine will eventually be rendered immobile cause he's not strong enought to bust through thick webbing when one webline can support a cars weight. A webbed up Wolverine can have a webline attached to the cocoon that binds him and he can be dashed back and forth until he's unconscious. That would take a while but the end results would have Wolverine the loser. There's no reason that Wolverine could consistently negate webs that are proven to be more effective than the trapsters glue.

Originally posted by SamZED
Yes, there is. It's there and its clear that its there. So it is a clear gap. Clear doesn not = huge.

Wrecked? Sorry, but you'd lose the bet. Spider-man already proved that once he's used to not having it, lack of spider sense only handicaps him if he's being sneak attacked. He is able to stay away from his claws because of his speed. Spider sense only aids but would be next to useless in CQC if he werent also faster. And SM currently does just fine without ss. So unless Logan uses a sneak attack lack of ss wont make much of a difference and he's certanly not getting wrecked.

Yes, only because all his other senses were basically off at that moment, said so himself. Not because it was the only way.

tbh speed edge is clearer to me. There are plenty of streetlevelers with simillar agility but not many with simillar speed.

That is true. And yet they all attacking at the same time stand a much bigger chance of tagging Spider-man than Wolverine would all by himself in an open area.

Those examples were not brought to aid me in the argumewnt. They were a responce to you saying that spider sense makes him seem faster when its not the case as he currently looks as fast as ever even though he doesnt have it.

I know you didnt mean he's not fast. Im arguing for a different reason. Look, you're one of the few Logan fans who admit Spider-man is faster. And it is great. But now that you do admit it, you try to make it sound like the speed difference is SO insignificant that it barely exists at all and doesnt make ANY diference. So you could have as well not admitted that at all. But it is there or Spider-man would've been dead years ago.

Most of them are too inconsistant to say. Hell, Scorpion on-panel was said to be way faster than Captain America. And going by majority of his showings I doubt that.

Originally posted by Tha C-Master
Because he's faster.

He dodges Carnage who is far faster than Wolverine and he doesn't have SS against him.

A lot of street levelers have "similar feats", they aren't as fast as Spider-Man. Robin isn't close to Spider-Man's speed going all out.

Lifting 100 lbs is similar to lifting 200 lbs, but they aren't the same.

So becuase he dodged carnage that makes him much faster then wolverine? Gotta love your logic. Wolverine dodge venom,puma (while poisoned, lizard, vermin ect. All with out a spider senses. So please explain to me how dodging carnage makes Spiderman faster?

I mean wolverine can match spiderman best speed feats. He matches his rougues speed and has match spiderman speed in combat. He also been potray just as fast while on team togather like the new avengers.

Oh so spiderman double wolverine speed now? Not be the least bit surpised if you believe that to be honest.

Originally posted by SamZED
lThey arent?

They take place in Marvel Adventures universe.

Originally posted by Dum Dum Dugan
Really bussy with work right now, but I try to get to this as soon as possible.

He might be, but not even remotely close to the level you imply. Though Sam arguing with me, he does not think Spiderman is nearly as fast in comparision to wolverine as you do.

So becuase he dodged carnage that makes him much faster then wolverine? Gotta love your logic. Wolverine dodge venom,puma (while poisoned, lizard, vermin ect. All with out a spider senses. So please explain to me how dodging carnage makes Spiderman faster?

I mean wolverine can match spiderman best speed feats. He matches his rougues speed and has match spiderman speed in combat. He also been potray just as fast while on team togather like the new avengers.

Oh so spiderman double wolverine speed now? Not be the least bit surpised if you believe that to be honest.

You have no room to try and attack *anybody's* credibility on here.

I brought up Carnage because of the SS and him not needing it. Carnage is faster with projectiles, and can expand. That's the difference.

Originally posted by Dum Dum Dugan
Makes it more annoying in m opinion. Because if there going to state a change, make one actually present, lol. Other wise there just stating a change for shock value, to boost sales for a bit.

Originally posted by SamZED
lol. Falling on that car was embarrassing. But even that is no longer a problem. He just needed to get used to not having it. He was already shown dodging supervillains, bullets, an explosion AFTER it went off etc. So.. 😎

They arent?

well today while i was out i picked up Amazing Spider-Man to see if i feel it still worth reading for me.

Thanks for the information guys!

Haven't read much Spider-Man lately, I have been playing Duke Forever. Good stuff.

Wolverine 8/10. Just as fast, more durable, better fighter, has a one shot kill weapon on his hand.

Wolverine is not equally fast to Spider-Man, my god. Why was this not an issue back in 05, but now people keep trying to say that other street characters are as fast or faster than Spider-Man?

Originally posted by Tha C-Master
Wolverine is not equally fast to Spider-Man, my god. Why was this not an issue back in 05, but now people keep trying to say that other street characters are as fast or faster than Spider-Man?

Wolverine isn't street, he is a meta and his speed is one of the reasons why he is meta. Spiderman on more than one occassion has complimented Wolverine speed... why compliment someone that is slower than you? Doesn't make sense to me.

Originally posted by Dum Dum Dugan
Really bussy with work right now, but I try to get to this as soon as possible.

Originally posted by carver9
Wolverine isn't street, he is a meta and his speed is one of the reasons why he is meta. Spiderman on more than one occassion has complimented Wolverine speed... why compliment someone that is slower than you? Doesn't make sense to me.

Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
They take place in Marvel Adventures universe.

Originally posted by carver9
Wolverine isn't street, he is a meta and his speed is one of the reasons why he is meta. Spiderman on more than one occassion has complimented Wolverine speed... why compliment someone that is slower than you? Doesn't make sense to me.

Wolverine is slower than Spiderman.

Originally posted by carver9
Wolverine isn't street, he is a meta and his speed is one of the reasons why he is meta. Spiderman on more than one occassion has complimented Wolverine speed... why compliment someone that is slower than you? Doesn't make sense to me.

I'm not saying Wolverine can't see Spider-Man move, but he isn't equal to him in speed.

Wolverine has said Spider-Man can break his neck, could I use that evidence?

Originally posted by Tha C-Master
His healing mainly is the reason. Nonetheless Superman has complimented Batman on many things, doesn't mean he is on the same level.

I'm not saying Wolverine can't see Spider-Man move, but he isn't equal to him in speed.

Wolverine has said Spider-Man can break his neck, could I use that evidence?

His healing is "one" of the things that makes him meta along with his speed being one of those things as well.

Has Superman "physically complimented Batman... liiiiiike, on his speed?

I don't care if Spiderman can or can't break his neck, the point is, Spiderman has complimented Wolverine on his speed more than once, hell, more than twice.

I would not compliment someone that is slower than me along with anyone else.

Flash complimented Quicksilver.

Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
Flash complimented Quicksilver.

Someone has hacked his account.

Originally posted by carver9
His healing is "one" of the things that makes him meta along with his speed being one of those things as well.

Has Superman "physically complimented Batman... liiiiiike, on his speed?

I don't care if Spiderman can or can't break his neck, the point is, Spiderman has complimented Wolverine on his speed more than once, hell, more than twice.

I would not compliment someone that is slower than me along with anyone else.

Wolverine is low, low, low meta, high high high peak in speed and strength, his super high healing is what is truly meta.

Originally posted by SamZED
O.O Did... did you.. did you just make an argument in Spider-man's defence?

Was still recovering from partying hard.

Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
Was still recovering from partying hard.

Originally posted by Parmaniac
Alcohol is not an excuse.

I keep hearing that.