Holes in The Matrix Movies

i agree meta. its jus the way we percieve the rain falling
like walking down a hill, ur body straightens itself at the ankles.

Originally posted by The Alpha
mook> meta> wot do u think about that rain direction problem which i have stated before? r u satisified with Sifer's argument?

Originally posted by Metamorphisis
Ofcourse. That's simple physics. When you are standing still in a straight rain, the rain appears to fall straight like: | when you move it will appear slanted like / or \. Simular scenarios are talked about in Einstines general theory of relitivity.

Next time it's raining outside, take a video camera out and record the rain falling then pan sidways in both directions. If you can see the rain (best results would be done using a bright spotlight) you will see it do just that.

It can be explained without science. The Matrix was already screwing up, so the rain would most likely also mess up.

haha, ok that works too, but i still agree w/meta on this point. rain looks different when ur walkin then it does standing still. also, wind can change the direction of rain.

The Unknown

True you can say that it was screwing up because the matrix was screwing up. There's only one problem with that theory....the rain WASN'T screwing up. It's rudimentary physics.

Think of it this way (as I learned it in a nutshell):

I stand on top of a building while you stand still below, and I drop a basketball. The ball appears to fall straight down. This time we suspend the ball at eye level, place you on a platform that rolls, and push you past the ball to your right. The ball would appear to move to your left, even though it's stationary, because of your motion to the right. Now put the two together. I drop the ball from the building as you start to move to the right. As the ball falls in a straight vertical line towards the ground and you move in a straight horizontal line across the ground, the ball would appear to move diagonally towards the ground to the left. The ball's path did not change from the first time I dropped it, you changed - your perception at least - because you were moving at the same time.

Same principle in the matrix. The camera is on Neo and he's running forward very fast, and the camera pans sideways with him to our apparent right, so the rain appears to be falling to the left. The camera is on Smith and he's running towards Neo very fast, the camera panning with him to our apparent left, and the rain appears to fall to the right. When the camera is stationary the rain falls straight down.

The only point that the rain does anything bizarre is when it actually falls upwards because of the superbrawl fight - but that was an intentional effect because you see it stop hitting the ground completely.

People are just digging for holes now...go read a book! l😆l

guys...i knew it wasnt a hole 😉 but i was astonished while seeing that in trailer...just confusing me...

nice explanations...thanx meta> (and for God sake tell me if there is any problem with your keyboard 😄)

Metamorphisis, I didn't mean that it was screwing up, I was just saying that if it was, then it could be explained that way.

No more holes yet. 🙂 (Thats good)

I got a question, I didn't read all 28 pages to find out if it was asked. Sorry, but I don't have that kind of time.

In The Matrix, when Cypher visits with Agent Smith in the restaraunt, how does he get in and out of the Matrix all by himself? I mean, you need someone to plug you in and out right? If someone HAD to help him, who was it? Or if no one helped him get in the Matrix, how the heck did he do it? I could fathom maybe he got in by himself, but definitely he could not pull the plug out himself.

Obviously anyone on the Nebuchanezzar who helped him would have known of his evil plan. But no one did help him, so that whole thing just doesn't make sense.

The W. Bros have answered that, when Neo walks in on Cypher and scares the bejesus out of him and he turns off the screens and shite, he is working on some program to allow him to enter the matrix by himself and so forth.

yeah, thats why he looks so shifty.

i think it should have been shown how he did this though.

Originally posted by Mordecai
The W. Bros have answered that, when Neo walks in on Cypher and scares the bejesus out of him and he turns off the screens and shite, he is working on some program to allow him to enter the matrix by himself and so forth.

Have W. Bros answered the questions? I want to know the URL where it is.

My guess is an Auto Dial Program. Think about it, Cypher is clearly doing some short of work when Neo greets him. First he looks around and then shuts down a bunk of monitors. All he had to do was time a hardline to ring at a specific time.(No one else did this because they didn't want to be around dying before the phone rang.) Wheather or not this is Cypher's first actual meeting with an Agent is unclear. But he definately informed them about the next potenial,Neo.

The Alpha

http://www.zionmainframe.net/main/matrix/archive/wachowski.html

Its there.

WachowskiBros: Cypher, at the beginning of this scene, is setting up an automated system to allow him to go meet with Agent Smith.

y didnt Neo stopped him doing so?

The Alpha>y didnt Neo stopped him doing so?

neo was still new to 'the real world' so dint really know what he was doing.

also i think cypher closed it/hid it when neo interrupted him.

it was an auto-dialer, they sed it in an interview...neo woulnd't have any idea what it was...he couldnt read matrix code yet.

I don't remember it being in matrix code. I think it was a normal screen.

yes it was a normal screen.

machine killed neo in the real world which caused the kill of smith in the matrix (neo-cloned-smith) why all other died? It was not necessary.

Because if the other Smiths weren't deleted, then they'd take over the Matrix and then the machines would destroy Zion...

I love the matrix😂