Spider-Man vs Batman

Spiderman easily wins: he has at least as much experience as Batman (don’t forget he began his carreer as superhero as a teenager, much younger than Batman), is way stronger, faster and more agile and has a built in alarmsystem. He is also tougher. Batman can throw whatever he wants at Spidey, but Spiderman can avoid all of these while filling in the crosswords. Remember, all what Spiderman needs is one good punch, and it's exit Batman 🙂

And please, don’t gimme that “Batman thinks ahead and plans his battles like a game of chess”. I know he’s very smart and quite tough, but Spiderman isn’t a retard himself. He has fought like every bad guy in the Marvel Universe (a million times), and even a good deal in other universes. Spiderman uses both his superpowers as well as his intelligence. There are some people who really think that Batman is some kind of analyzing computer who just has to see his opponent to know his weaknesses and so on… That’s not true, and besides, Batman will have a hard time spying on Spiderman (and following him), because Spiderman will feel it if someone is watching him.

In a fight mano a mano against Spiderman, Batman wouldn’t stand a chance. Of course, when Batman starts building traps and hidden weapons and so on, then he could actually win the fight. Sorry guys, but that would be a very lame way to win! It wouldn’t be an honnest fight. And don’t forget that also Spiderman can build traps, but of course, he won’t do that, it’s not his way of fighting. I respect Batman because he has taken on very tough and dangerous opponents while he’s only a human with no superpowers, but Spiderman is really out of his league.

It doesn’t mean a thing that Batman knows hundreds of fighting styles, because he never will be able to actually hit such an extremely fast and agile guy as Spiderman. And even if he does manage to hit him a few times, I don’t think Spiderman will go down ! He can take a whole of a lot more than that. Spiderman has been beaten up by much much stronger people than Batman, and still managed to win the fight by fighting on his willpower, strength and brains.

So sorry Batman, no hard feelings, but this one you can’t win.

Originally posted by Gregory
I'm not going to comment on the Spiderman/Batman thing, but I will comment on this.

You, sir, are an idiot.

Very convincing argument.

Originally posted by Cyclops
Very convincing argument.

It wasn't an argument, it was personal commentary.

Which I hereby apologize for. I like to think I'm a little more mature than that; I just lost my temper for a moment.

But I will also tell you why I disagree with you. You say that "HE [Batman] HAS NO REAL POWERS! THAT IS WHAT DEFINES A SUPERHERO!"

I assume that you mean that someone cannot be a Superhero without powers. I disagree. Batman is a hero because he performs heroics, and he is "super" because he does things that "normal" humans can't do. The fact that he does them without metahuman abilities is, in my opinion, irrelivant.

But even if you refuse to classify Batman as a superhero, I don't see why it should matter. The question isn't whether Batman is a superhero; it is whether or not his abilities would allow him to win a fight with Spider Man.

Originally posted by Gregory
It wasn't an argument, it was personal commentary.

Which I hereby apologize for. I like to think I'm a little more mature than that; I just lost my temper for a moment.

I am not trying to argue with you, so please do not take my comments as personal attacks on you.

Could you expand a little more on why you feel I was wrong in saying what I did?

My personal opinion of Batman is he is a rich guy with too much time on his hands. I has no power, which I feel seperates Superhero's from average policemen. That is what Batman is; a policeman in a costume. Sure, he is smart, but so is Spider-Man.

Batman is to DC comics what Ironman is to Marvel.

And in my first post, I said that Spider-Man would manhandle Batman, and for the following reasons:

1) Even if Spider-Man was caught off-guard and Batman had a chance to use one of his fancy weapons.... Spider-Sense. Batman would not get a hit off.

2) Spider-Man webs up the "caped crusader" and does whatever he wants with him.

3) Spider-Strength vs. human (bodybuilder) strength... obvious.

4) Do I have to go on? I will be here for a good 3 hours.

what you mean to say is vigilante cyclops(someone who upholds the law WITHOUT legal authority). Batman isnt super anything except at being a hero. So he IS a superhero.And to be a geek, super in the dictionary means more than normal, not way above normal(thats hyper), just more than normal.Batman is deffo more athletic,agile, strong, fast, fitter than normal . In terms of fighting spidey, I think spidey himself is the wrong guy for bats to fight. He can beat superpowered guys but spidey is such an unorthodox and unpredictable fighter and is all wrong for bats.Thats the same reason why I believe DD would take Bats. In terms of being the best crimefighter:bats edges it but it's damn close, spidey is also an excellent detective and an excellent hero. He juggles so much in his life where as batmans whole life is about his heroism(thats why he's the best). Both great heros and definitley both SUPERHEROS spidey would win the fight IMO and bats is the greatest crimefighter the world has ever seen.

Gregory is right, Kal-El is right, and Cyclops has some good points.

Who?-kid, you ar wrong about Spider-Man not setting traps. He has done this many times. That's what spiders do, after all. And by the way, Peter Parker is a whiz at chess. Probably not as good as Batman, but good enough to play the game the same way-- e.i. setting traps for opponents he knows he can't defeat by strength and speed alone.

Originally posted by Cyclops
My personal opinion of Batman is he is a rich guy with too much time on his hands. I has no power, which I feel seperates Superhero's from average policemen. That is what Batman is; a policeman in a costume. Sure, he is smart, but so is Spider-Man.

I just don't think that having powers is a fair criterion.

Take the Green Lantern, for example. He doesn't have powers either. He uses a tool: the Green Lantern Ring. But nobody seems to doubt that he's a superhero. Batman and Green Lantern: neither have super powers of their own. Both use all their resources to fight crime. But because Green Lantern happens to have access to a very powerful tool, and Batman only has access to ordinary technology and his own abilities, Green Lantern is a super hero and Batman is just a policeman in a costume? I don't buy it.

Or what if we gave Batman a thoroughly worthless power, like making people's hair stand on end? Would he be a superhero then? He'd be a crime-fighter with superpowers--your definition of a superhero--but for all practical purposes, he'd be the same as he is now.

I admit that I don't have a perfect definition of "superhero," but I hope this illustrates why I don't like the one you're using.

Right on, Greg. I like your style.

If anything, Green Lantern is more of a cop than Batman. While Batman has better detective and crime-fighting skills, Green Lantern is part of an interstellar police corps, each one of which is charged with protecting his or her assigned sector. Batman wasn't given his task by any authority.

Very well cleared up there Greg and Logan. We are deffo right in saying that you don't need super powers to be a superhero.
If batman could make peoples hair stand on end then that would be an exageration of his best of one of his best abilities - scaring badguys! They'll actually LOOK really scared too!hehe!

And technically, superman is supercop too, he has a MPD badge

Originally posted by kal-el
what you mean to say is vigilante

I could have said that, but overdressed policeman just sounded funnier.

I have to admit, you have all made very good points, but I still stand by my opinion and will further defend it.

However, what I am going to do is start an entire new thread so we are not all kicked in the proverbial nuts by a moderator. When I find a place to post it, I will inform you all.

look forward to hearing from you.you're right though, police man does sound funnier.

Holy Hackmyers (I made that word up)! 313 responses! WOW! This is one whopper of a post and I was the one that made it!

good job!!

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So, who won in this fight?

I have only read a few of Batmans own comics including the bane incident but I have also seen him quite a bit in JLA graphic novels, I think the deciding factor between Spidey & Bats is why are they fighting, because both of these characters are capable of discovering mind control or other false reason for fighting (such as false accusations or incentives from outside powers). I have never understood the way that the writers of Bats write him to defeat people like the predetor but I think he generally plans and strategises to defeat opponents, if he turned up at a crime scene without prior knowledge that Spidey would be there then he would get pasted, but given prior knowledge it would come down to who wants the victory the most!