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Started by ska57156 pages

"This is interesting. I remember looking this up some while back. Lucifer wanted to be like God, but God was SO jealous that he cast him out of heaven. Not the kind of god I'd wanna worship. What if I want to be like him...oh wait, the Bible itself tells us to be just like him! The Bible tells us to be just like Jesus, who IS God in human form. Oh, this means we're all royally ****ed now. We are supposed to be like him, but he'll get jealous when we do, and if we don't obey, we go to hell! Isn't that lovely?"

Wait just a minute, Lucifer didn't only want to be like God, he wanted TO BE GOD, and take His throne. Us being like Jesus is to follow His influence, not take over God's throne. Jesus lived a perfect life, and we should try to imitate Him.

Originally posted by ska57
You guys are arguing against a kid in High School, I don't have all the answers, I'm sorry.

News flash!
Both me and DR and AE are in high school, And were all Juniors (I think, srry if Im wrong)

Translation: the Were older than you card don't work here!

But if we were perfect, Satan wouldn't logically be able to get through to us... Since he obviously can't get through to God... 😕

What IS perfection, then? An egotistical, rule-through-fear dictator? Because that's how Christianity portrays god. If he was loving, he would love us truly unconditionally, which is what he theoretically does. And yet he has a set of rules for us, and if we **** things up, he casts us into hell. Also, if he was perfect, he would be able to march straight down into hell right now and get rid of Satan once and for all.

Err.... No, I don't believe you have answered the question I was talking about: do you actually know the history of the Bible?

And you are arguing against a kid in high school as well, so don't try to use that as an excuse to not at least try to answer all our questions... Or admit openly when you can't answer one.

"Wait just a minute, Lucifer didn't only want to be like God, he wanted TO BE GOD, and take His throne."

He got his own realm and followers for challenging God. Not all bad. Rather die on your feet than live on your knees right?

-AC

Originally posted by Alpha Centauri
"Wait just a minute, Lucifer didn't only want to be like God, he wanted TO BE GOD, and take His throne."

He got his own realm and followers for challenging God. Not all bad. Rather die on your feet than live on your knees right?

-AC

Here here!

Yup!
there's a lyric I should post here but I forget it!

Originally posted by Alpha Centauri
Why do people assume Satan is a bad guy? Damn man.

Look, I'll quote Bill Hicks:

"People say you've been brainwashed by Satan if you do certain things or question certain things. For example, listening to Rock music. The Devil's music they say. Well let's suppose that we KNOW for sure that it is the music of Satan, that is it IS the Devil's music, for sure. At least he ****ing jams. The message is this: Eternal suffering awaits anyone who questions God's infinate love. Nice choices oh forgiving lord. If it's a choice between eternal Hell and good music or eternal Heaven and New Kids On The ****ing Block, I'll WILLINGLY surf the lake of fire and rock out."

Wouldn't it be funny if Satan actually turned out to be the good guy? Ever think about that? What if you wasted your entire life not having fun or indulging yourself coz it was "God's word" to not do so, then when you die and go there he says:

"Hahahaha. Now you have an eternity of no fun awaiting you. You followed me so relentlessly and blindly that you never questioned if it was right or wrong for you. Alpha Centauri is downstairs with the horned one, listening to Nine Inch Nails and discussing subjects labelled as sins, having fun. While you and your endless love for me Ska, are stuck here. Welcome to Hell."

-AC

First of all, I love rock, that's almost all of what I listen to (Christain rock). It even says in Psalm 98:4 to shout for joy and BURST into jubilant song with music. Psalm 33:3 says "Sing to Him a new song; play skillfully, and shout for joy." King David's dancing was so erratic in 1st Chronicles that his wife frowned upon him. Rock is awesome!

"Nice choices oh forgiving lord. If it's a choice between eternal Hell and good music or eternal Heaven and New Kids On The ****ing Block, I'll WILLINGLY surf the lake of fire and rock out.""
AC, you wouldn't even kid around with that statement if you knew that Hell exists.

"Wouldn't it be funny if Satan actually turned out to be the good guy? Ever think about that?"
No, Satan is the father of lies, his only goal is to bring you to Hell with him because he knows that that is where he is going.

"What if you wasted your entire life not having fun or indulging yourself coz it was "God's word" to not do so, then when you die and go there he says:

"Hahahaha. Now you have an eternity of no fun awaiting you. You followed me so relentlessly and blindly that you never questioned if it was right or wrong for you. Alpha Centauri is downstairs with the horned one, listening to Nine Inch Nails and discussing subjects labelled as sins, having fun. While you and your endless love for me Ska, are stuck here. Welcome to Hell.""
AC, I am having WAY more fun being a Christain than I EVER did not being one. I have fullfillment in my life now and I know that I am saved from Hell and that I will be Jesus forever!!! Me and Jesus will jam to Five Iron Frenzy for all eternity man!

I'm logging off now, so don't think I'm not responding on purpose. See you all tomorrow!

Christian rock is NOT rock. Learn that. (why is it that "I love Christian rock" has had more impact on me than anything else this guy has posted?)

Nine Inch Nails, Tool, Bad Religion, and all the other sinful bands out there are infinitely better than any Christian crap. The term "Christian rock" is an oxymoron.

*stabs throat with a dull fork in frustration at STILL not having question about Bible history answered*

My point is, if there's an afterlife. It's eternal.

If I'm gonna be living somewhere for eternity I want it to be a place of freedom. Not slavery. If that happens to be Hell then fine.

Homer Simpson went to Hell and got fed donuts. They have IRONIC punishment. So that means......if I go to Hell.....they'll force me to sleep with Angelina Jolie over and over again. Oh the horror!

-AC

haha 😆

🙄

OK what have we learned from him today?
1) NEVER EVER EVER question god or his existence or anything, or do not question this statement!
2) The bible is right because I believe in it.
3) Satan is evil no matter what you say!
4)DO NOT QUESTION ANYTHING I SAID BECAUE I AM CHRISTIAN AND THUS BETTER THAN YOU SO BOW TO MY HOLY-NESS!

lol

😆

5) Don't bother asking me useful, yet difficult to answer questions, because if you do I will completely ignore you and then claim I already answered you. 😐

Originally posted by ska57
[BWait just a minute, Lucifer didn't only want to be like God, he wanted TO BE GOD, and take His throne.[/B]

I wanna be God too! God's got a sweet job. So far, it seems like his job is just to **** with us until we die, and then when he reveals the truth to us at the pearly gates, we find out he was just ****in around, and we all go to hell anyway.

Damn, I wanna be God...this means I'm goin to hell. I sin too, this also means I'm goin to hell. wait a second, I don't even belive in this crap! This would also mean that I'm goin to hell. Well now, the odds are just stacked against me, aren't they?

Unless of course there is, was and always will be only Hell.

-AC

Originally posted by Arachnoidfreak
I wanna be God too! God's got a sweet job. So far, it seems like his job is just to **** with us until we die, and then when he reveals the truth to us at the pearly gates, we find out he was just ****in around, and we all go to hell anyway.

Damn, I wanna be God...this means I'm goin to hell. I sin too, this also means I'm goin to hell. wait a second, I don't even belive in this crap! This would also mean that I'm goin to hell. Well now, the odds are just stacked against me, aren't they?

😂 you have no idea how many times I've been told I'm going to go to hell because I don't believe in God....

About the 'arguing with a high school kid' that ska brought up...age doesn't excuse ignorance once you get to high school. Tpt and DR and AE are all in high school and they sure as hell know what they're talking about. Me, I'm only a few months out of high school myself. So that's BS.

If you don't know the answer to a question, here's a novel idea...look it up!

I'm a very scientically-minded person, and I need evidence before I'll believe something.

coughcough, me a senior, coughcough.

Listen, if you follow religion blindly and never question it, we'd be living in ancient times. How f*cked up would that be? Religion is like the Matrix, blinding us fom the truth and Galileo, Copernicus and Darwin and like Neo, Morpheus and Trinity. They fought to free us from ther lie. The Church is a house of power; whatever the Church said was true, negarless of new discoveries. Why did the Church fight soo hard to condemn Galileo for teaching that the Earth was round and wasn't the center of the universe? Why? Because it challenged the Church and its power. If the Church was wrong one way, people would realize there were other flaws in it and rebel. Think about this: After the fall of the Roman Empire, the Church became a dominate force in people's lives. The Church taught that one must do his/her work willingly, never question and they shall be rewarded in never. What a f*cken dull life! There was NO advancement during that period. Then came the Printing Press in 1400. Books were made, people learned to reads. Ideas could travel faster and further. Some people began to question, and the Prodestent Reformation began. 150 years later, u got the Rennesaounce, a time of great learning. People began to think and question. People were becoming free.

If you want to believe the church, fine, but's it's not 100% right. Learn to come up with your own damn answers yo your question. Blind faith is very danergerous, u'll wind up in a society like "The Village".

Now I must go to school, and be "poisened with lies" Who the f*ck cares? I'm learning new things to have a successful caree. People value what people do with their lives. I'm niot going to sit back and be spoonfeed the same lies, I'll find my own truth, AE out.

Originally posted by Silver Stardust
😂 you have no idea how many times I've been told I'm going to go to hell because I don't believe in God....

About the 'arguing with a high school kid' that ska brought up...age doesn't excuse ignorance once you get to high school. Tpt and DR and AE are all in high school and they sure as hell know what they're talking about. Me, I'm only a few months out of high school myself. So that's BS.

If you don't know the answer to a question, here's a novel idea...look it up!

I'm a very scientically-minded person, and I need evidence before I'll believe something.


to go further on that (so I won't comment on the pathetic phrase "but I'm in highschool -cry cry- ":

There is NO ONE who prohibits you to research the evolution theory yourself... besides your religion or religious nuts. Saying you can't answer anything related to your beliefs or not knowing the evolution theory etc. is not because you're "only" in highschool, it's because you either have no idea what you're talking about (like you showed with evolution) or can't think for yourself (every religious answer you gave)

I think it's seriously time to take up TO's idea of just ignoring people till they have actually something usefull to say

I've already decided to ignore him until he answers my question... Waaaaay ahead of you yerss 😛