Originally posted by Arachnoidfreak
What I am getting from you, Ska, is that God is punishing all humans for the mistake ONE made(Eve). Oh yea, that's fair, isn't it?
God is not punishing us, He will only punish us if we don't believe Him. He gave everyone hope when he sent Jesus.
I can't tell for sure if that is totally fair or not, but I can tell you this, it was not fair for God to give up His one and only Son to us as a sacrifice, we didn't and never deserved it.
Originally posted by Alpha Centauri
You honestly think that if Jesus is watching all this, he even wants to come back? Knowing what he'll have to answer for? His return would be more about christians saying "HA! We were right" rather than "The son of God has returned." Religion has become so self centered that it's no longer relevant.-AC
"You honestly think that if Jesus is watching all this, he even wants to come back? Knowing what he'll have to answer for? "
Yes. It is prophesied.
"His return would be more about christians saying "HA! We were right" rather than "The son of God has returned.""
We Christians are not right, we are people just like you. It is God's word that is right.
"Religion has become so self centered that it's no longer relevant."
The whole point of Christianity is to center your life around God and put Him first priority in your life.
Originally posted by Agent Elrond
Naturally evil? I'm a good person and I didn't need religion to help me
Do you lie? Do you steal (if you think of it you commit it in your heart)? Do you lust after women? Do you hate other people (if you do then you murder them in your heart)? Do you ALWAYS obey your parents? Why did you have to be taught how to say thank you and not taught how to say "mine!" or hit others or say bad things? Because we are all born with sinful nature.
It's human nature to f*ck up, we not need to ask for forgivenis, we just move on and not make the same mistake again.
I just love how OT this thread has gotten. Unless you have hardcore proof of creation, or by some miracle you want to learn more about evolution and the natural laws of physics then leave and find another place to preach.
Originally posted by Agent Elrond
It's human nature to f*ck up, we not need to ask for forgivenis, we just move on and not make the same mistake again.I just love how OT this thread has gotten. Unless you have hardcore proof of creation, or by some miracle you want to learn more about evolution and the natural laws of physics then leave and find another place to preach.
"It's human nature to f*ck up..."
So, you ARE saying that the Bible is true on us having sinful nature.
"we not need to ask for forgivenis, we just move on and not make the same mistake again."
First of all, if we do not ask for forgiveness we go to hell when we die. As for we move on and not make the same mistake again, we will always sin, if we didn't do what sins we did when we were...5 years old, then there would be no more sin to not do again if we choose not to do it again. We sin the same sins over and over and over again.
"Unless you have hardcore proof of creation..."
Go to the "Bible: Fact or Fiction?" thread and answer my question, if you said yes, there is no way evolution can be true.
Originally posted by ska57
Okay, can I ask you guys a question? All right, if I broke into a house, damaged the owner's vehicle beyond repair, raped the children, killed the husband, wife, and other kids that they had, took their money, and then burned the house, would that be wrong?
This the q? That has NOTHING to do with religion, or evolution. Me will seasrch for another, me don't think this is it.
"It's human nature to f*ck up..."
So, you ARE saying that the Bible is true on us having sinful nature.
No, my sociology textbook says that.
Originally posted by Agent Elrond
This the q? That has NOTHING to do with religion, or evolution. Me will seasrch for another, me don't think this is it.No, my sociology textbook says that.
"This the q? That has NOTHING to do with religion, or evolution."
Yes it does. If we are evolved, then there is no purpose in life and therefore there should be nothing to stop us from doing those things. If someone murders someone else, why is it wrong? Survival of the fittest...but then why do we put those men in jail? Because they threaten to shorten our "meaningless" lives?
"Because we all know that without purpose, we would not exist."
"No, my sociology textbook says that."
The writer of your sociology textbook must have been a Christain.
Originally posted by ska57
"This the q? That has NOTHING to do with religion, or evolution."
Yes it does. If we are evolved, then there is no purpose in life and therefore there should be nothing to stop us from doing those things. If someone murders someone else, why is it wrong? Survival of the fittest...but then why do we put those men in jail? Because they threaten to shorten our "meaningless" lives?"No, my sociology textbook says that."
The writer of your sociology textbook must have been a Christain.
Pardon my rudeness, but your a f*cking idiot. What you said is proof that you know NOTHING about evolution. I think ur trying to say is that ur example is like natural selection. That's not natural, it's man-done. Anybody can use a gun to kill, does that make them stronger, you seem to think so. And yes our lives are meaningless, life does not need purpose to be.
As for ur second statement: maybe, but does that matter? Just because the bible and shrinks say the same thing about humane nature doesn't prove that the bible is right. Test were done by shrinks, no tests were done by bible ppl
Omega, no matter what I say or what Dr. Hovind says or what even God says, you will not believe there is any evidence of creation, and the Bible says that people like you will hear, but not percieve, you are blind to the truth, and deaf to God's word, and you will not change, no matter what is said.
II Peter 2:1-3 "But there were also false prophets among the people, just as there will be false teachers among you. They will secretly introduce destructive heresies, even denying the sovereign Lord who bought them-bringing swift destruction on themselves. Many will follow their shameful ways and will bring the way of truth to disrepute. In their greed these teachers will exploit you with stories they have made up. Their condemnation has long been hanging over them, and their destruction has not been sleeping."
Originally posted by Agent Elrond
Pardon my rudeness, but your a f*cking idiot. What you said is proof that you know NOTHING about evolution. I think ur trying to say is that ur example is like natural selection. That's not natural, it's man-done. Anybody can use a gun to kill, does that make them stronger, you seem to think so. And yes our lives are meaningless, life does not need purpose to be.As for ur second statement: maybe, but does that matter? Just because the bible and shrinks say the same thing about humane nature doesn't prove that the bible is right. Test were done by shrinks, no tests were done by bible ppl
"Pardon my rudeness, but your a f*cking idiot."
Matthew 10:22 "All men will hate you because of Me..."
"And yes our lives are meaningless, life does not need purpose to be."
Please, think about what you say before you post that kind of stuff.
"Test were done by shrinks, no tests were done by bible ppl"
And those tests confirm what the Bible says is fact.