Silver Surfer vs Thor

Originally posted by Rols
Do you ever notice that Warlock didnt use his gem at all or Dr. Strange not using his other powerfull spell, heck i think Drax w/power gem could have taken him out, they all wanted to subdue him not beat him to submission. I mean they've got a very powerfull line in there lets see; SS, Dr. Strange, Beta Ray Bill, Lady Sip, Thanos w/reality gem, Adam warlock w/soul gem, Drax w/power gem, Moon Dragoon w/mind gem, Pep w/space gem, Gamora w/time gem you're sayin all these guys could'nt beat a 10x Thor (Madness Thor). And you didnt show the pics when Adam was talking to SS about him not being in real danger.

SS also said that they were lucky to be alive? 😮

and the part where SS said he wasn't playing around any longer and that not even a mad god could stand up to the wrath of the SS? 😮

I don't think they were holding back.

I havent seen a drop of on panel evidence showing surfer beating Thor but I have seen a couple of comics with evidence suppoting Thor. One was a absolute victory for Thor and the other was Surfer himself saying he didnt have Thors power. Thats pretty much it isnt it?

Originally posted by MJOILNIR
I havent seen a drop of on panel evidence showing surfer beating Thor but I have seen a couple of comics with evidence suppoting Thor. One was a absolute victory for Thor and the other was Surfer himself saying he didnt have Thors power. Thats pretty much it isnt it?

Thor has more raw power but that's about it.

SS normal cosmic blast has nearly killed thor as he stated......

Every other time since their first encounter ..... Even when they worked together SS has always been the stronger opponent.

Originally posted by kgkg
There first encounter SS said mjolnir power is even greater in power than the power cosmic witch isn't false.

Thor has more raw power but that's about it.

SS normal cosmic blast has nearly killed thor as he stated......

Every other time since their first encounter ..... Even when they worked together SS has always been the stronger opponent.

Originally posted by Accel
When Thor said that SS's warning blast would have killed him, he was most likely exaggerating.

Originally posted by kgkg
no latter he does get K.O'ed 🙂

And we've seen Thor take out SS before as well.

Originally posted by Accel
...but not killed. 🙂

And we've seen Thor take out SS before as well.

Originally posted by kgkg
when? other than WM

Isn't that basically Thor when he lets loose and stops holding back?

Originally posted by Accel
WM Thor is the one I was referring to.

Isn't that basically Thor when he lets loose and stops holding back?

his strength has multiplied by a lot of factors.

Even then SS says he was holding back even with Mad THor ( until he got the power gem)

I have seen angry Thor ......... it's not the same as WM.

WM is something that was killing thor

Originally posted by kgkg
WM is not angry thor 😄

his strength has multiplied by a lot of factors.

Even then SS says he was holding back even with Mad THor ( until he got the power gem)

I have seen angry Thor ......... it's not the same as WM.

WM is something that was killing thor

Even an angry Thor can be holding back some.

SS also said that they were lucky to be alive?

and the part where SS said he wasn't playing around any longer and that not even a mad god could stand up to the wrath of the SS?

I don't think they were holding back.

Well, I guess there is a lot of inconsistency in this crossover because we've got 1 comic series saying SS wasnt really in great danger according to Adam, this is after the beating when adam found SS unconcious body, and another comic series where SS saying that they were lucky to be alive.
Anyhow I still think the Team where holding back or just fighting horribly. I mean those lineup could greatly put up a fight against a level of being like Galactus.

Which factors multiplied his strength, though? Seriously, I want to know.

Even an angry Thor can be holding back some.

Isnt Madness Thor supposed to be 10x the level of Thor? And its not consistent because they can only have these decease 2x in there lifetime, if not cured forfet is there life. But then again Thor is not the Norm Asgardian WM might work diff. on him. His already had these decease 2x dough so we dont know if where going to see it again.
Mad Thor is just same powerset except his quite in rage and fighting against a hightier Char. and that would be quite a disadvantage.

Originally posted by Rols
Do you ever notice that Warlock didnt use his gem at all or Dr. Strange not using his other powerfull spell, heck i think Drax w/power gem could have taken him out, they all wanted to subdue him not beat him to submission. I mean they've got a very powerfull line in there lets see; SS, Dr. Strange, Beta Ray Bill, Lady Sip, Thanos w/reality gem, Adam warlock w/soul gem, Drax w/power gem, Moon Dragoon w/mind gem, Pep w/space gem, Gamora w/time gem you're sayin all these guys could'nt beat a 10x Thor (Madness Thor).

Yes. I go by what's in the comics.

And you didnt show the pics when Adam was talking to SS about him not being in real danger.

What are you talking about? Maybe you missed the part where Warlock said they were in deep trouble.

From beginning to end its quite obviously a thorough thrashing of all and sundry by a more powerful opponent.

Yes. I go by what's in the comics.

Then wouldnt you think its a little funny that this extremely powerfull line up of Char couldnt beat Madness Thor. It goes to show you that they just wanted to subdue him and cure his madness rather than kill him, I mean think about it why dont they just go all out and kill Thor, they got power at there disposal to certainly do that.

What are you talking about? Maybe you missed the part where Warlock said they were in deep trouble.

From beginning to end its quite obviously a thorough thrashing of all and sundry by a more powerful opponent.

When SS and Madness Thor first meet and fought, Warlock came to rescue SS, Warlock mentioned that SS was not in real danger because of no physical injuries. Ill give you the issue # maybe tommorrow or next day.

Again they were all holding back, diff. story if everyone was in for blood.

Superman can beat Thor and would have much more difficult of a time facing the surfer

in that logic Surfer wins

Originally posted by Rols
Isnt Madness Thor supposed to be 10x the level of Thor? And its not consistent because they can only have these decease 2x in there lifetime, if not cured forfet is there life. But then again Thor is not the Norm Asgardian WM might work diff. on him. His already had these decease 2x dough so we dont know if where going to see it again.
Mad Thor is just same powerset except his quite in rage and fighting against a hightier Char. and that would be quite a disadvantage.

Originally posted by Redatom65
Superman can beat Thor and would have much more difficult of a time facing the surfer

in that logic Surfer wins

And it's not like Supes would have an easy time beating Thor either.

Originally posted by Rols
Then wouldnt you think its a little funny that this extremely powerfull line up of Char couldnt beat Madness Thor. It goes to show you that they just wanted to subdue him and cure his madness rather than kill him,

In the comics they were not holding back. Maybe you like to think they were but none of the gems had a meaningful effect on Thor. Ever wonder why Warlock didnt bother using his gem again?

I mean think about it why dont they just go all out and kill Thor, they got power at there disposal to certainly do that.

This is the key to your misconception. If you start off with this incorrect assumption then whatever the comics say will make no sense and the only option is to "interpret" when in fact there is nothing to interpret and it's clear as night and day that try as they might they could not even restrain him let alone ko him or kill him. It was like a grown up beatin up on kids.

When SS and Madness Thor first meet and fought, Warlock came to rescue SS, Warlock mentioned that SS was not in real danger because of no physical injuries. Ill give you the issue # maybe tommorrow or next day.

He was no longer in any danger because the fight (cant really be called a fight when one is KOd already) was interupted before, as surfer said, Thor crushed the surfer's skull with his hammer. Thor again brutalized the Surfer and again Warlock rescued him before Thor crushed his skull.

Both times the Surfer woke up from being easily KO'd he was surprised to still be alive. If you don't listen to me, listen to the Surfer. He certainly knew the second time around that he could easily end up dead but try as he might he wasn't able to come close to KOing thor. Are you seriously saying that although the Surfer does not have the power to drop thor to his knees that he has the power to kill him and that he would hold back to such an extent even when 1) he says he is no longer holding back and 2) he is fighting for his own life? And if Surfer is as powerful as you say, then why did he need to team up with Warlock for something you claim he should have had no problem handling by himself? Not that teaming up with Warlock made the least bit of difference as they both were lucky to escape alive.

Again they were all holding back, diff. story if everyone was in for blood.

Do you think Maxam and Drax were holding back when they double teamed Thor and struck him at the same time? If they were holding back then why didnt Drax simply not hold back and take Thor himself? Why did they feel the need to double team him, not that it made the least bit of difference as they both got KO'd in rapid succession. Drax has probably never been struck as hard. The power gem was literally knocked out of his body.

Surfer himself stated you will face the wraith of the SS and the power cosmic and was clearly pissed off. Shortly after SS was lying on his backside knocked out.

Originally posted by MJOILNIR
Surfer himself stated you will face the wraith of the SS and the power cosmic and was clearly pissed off. Shortly after SS was lying on his backside knocked out.

Yea, I know. I tend to look at him as mentally unstable instead of warrior madness. Thor himself has stated in comics(cant remember the # but it was around the time of onslaught) befor that the warrior madness is a beserk like state that he works himself into just like the viking beserker. He even called it putting on the "bear shirt" which is what berserker means in nordic.