What makes you think he could wipe Thor out of existence? Again, your knowledge of Marvel comics seems limited. All the evidence has been that none of the gems (used individually) can overcome Thor.
Sorry you are greatly overstamating madness Thor here, Granted he is very powerfull, and i admit he is a lot stronger than SS, But only the soul and mind gem was used on Thor, what makes you think he is immune to the others. IE. Space, time, reality.
None of his powers can do anything to Thor. In Marvel comics, Gods are immune to a lot of things that would affect most characters.
In your opinion, not ours. I seemed to remember Thor scared of a warning shot from SS, and also how both Thor and SS defeated Millinea who is by far more powerfull than Thor And dont tell my that was all Thors doing cause id call that Bull.
If it was just one isolated comic it can be poor writing but the entire series across a number of marvel product lines is based on the premise that Thor can wipe the floor with the Surfer. Surfer himself has admitted to this in the past and in this comic also we see Sif obviously worried about what Thor would do to the Surfer. Turns out she was right.
Again your opinion as you like Thor, We SS fans have a diff. opinion as weve seen diff. feat of SS surpassing the one in Blood and Thunder crossover.
Thanos didnt do anything to Odin. All he showed was that he can take one hell of beating and not die. And yes, in a pitched H2H fight he will almost always beat Thor as long as Thor does not have the power gem.
Yes, i totally agree with you on that but why didnt Thanos display that kind of firepower against Madness Thor in there first encounter, heck why didnt he used reality gem to take him out. My opinion, because they were there to help him not out for blood.
Huh? What are you talking about? Neither the Karmic blast or mindblast had any effect on Thor. Didnt even knock him down. In fact, it was specifically stated "my mindblast isnt even slowing him down". Given that this is the case, it's a bit of a stretch to think that somehow it will when another equally impotent attack is used. There's a reason why Warlock and Moondragon didnt bother using their gems after the first time.
Again this is why i said your only based this Characters feat on this particular crossover. The soul gem has diff. other feats not just Karmic Blast, read Warlock and the Infinity Watch, Warlock Chronicles, miniseries. And regarding the Mind Gem MoonDragoon use it to heal Thor out from his madness by destroying Valeria issence. It was not an attack.
This is why Maxam says "maybe this is a situation that calls for brute force". Well, that didnt work either for while his sucker punch hurt Thor, it just ticked him off more, and when he and Drax (with power gem) double teamed Thor, it just ticked him off even more, and the result was that Maxam and Drax were layed out before they knew what hit them
Do you also remember in part 2 of this crossover How easily BRB knock Thor out and then in part 7 Thor easily swat both Maxam and Drax w/power gem, heck Drax fought Insane GenisVille but lost yet he didnt show the kind of brutality displayed on that fight against MThor. Do you see the inconsestency of the Cha. in here, it just depends on the writer, showing high and low feats according to story plot.
Thanos, undoubtedly boosted by technology as he always is (and might as well be considered his own capability), did very well to go toe to toe with Thor with the Power Gem. But as Thor was growing in power he would have broken out and killed them all as they all feared.
Sorry but i have a diff. interpretion of that, They feared but they feared his health more so. This team bloodlusted against Madness Thor, Thor killed horribly bare in mind thats just my opinion.
As for teleporting, Thor can teleport whereever he wants. Also, Odin could have killed him but chose not to for obvious reasons and learned that it wasnt berserker rage but insanity resulting from all the times Odin screwed with Thor's mind.
How did you get that result. Odin Stated it was the Madness and was afraid that it might be too late to cure, but obviously it was not.
Wrong. Class 100 can be anything from lifting 100tons + 1lb to infinity. Surfer is strong, he has knocked people into orbit, but in strength he is nowhere near Thor. One only has to look at the relative effect of Surfer and Thor on Thanos or, even better, Galactus. Furthermore, in a head to head conflict, Thor can draw the power cosmic right out of the Surfer and can control cosmic forces at a level beyond what the Surfer can.
Again that is your opinion, we all know how SS jobbs to Thanos. Regarding Thor absorbing SS pc, has he done it, no, then dont assume he can. Ive only seen Quazar done it.
This person is confusing straight line speed with combat speed. Thor is better in both. He can travel faster than the speed of light, easily crossing dimensions, or just plain teleport. In combat, he has FTL reflexes and can keep up with speed machines like the Gladiator. Whereas Surfer becomes immaterial to avoid objects in space at high speed, Thor can actually navigate meteor storms at those speeds.
Read some SS issue will you or check respect thread, dont assume.
Surfer may or may not be more invulnerable to heat, cold, radiation, toxins, disease and aging (there's no clear evidence one way or the other) but he is certainly more vulnerable to concussion than Thor and the Gladiator.
He once carried a virus that could completly decemate the population of the universe but was anaffected by it. Checked the respect thread for other invulnaribily feat. My opinion SS better invulnarability than Thor.
What's even more relavent is that Thor has demonstrably far greater attacking power which means that even if they are both equally resistant to battle damage Thor has a much better chance of knocking out the Surfer. Add in faster reflexes and it becomes a done deal.
Where, If your refering to Blood and Thunder thats just crap, obviously it was meant to cure Thor of his Madness but some people took it diff.
Ive seen SS took a planetary blast without a scratch, he has also dished out planetary blast as well.
With the hammer Thor can actually do things beyond anything the surfer can do (such as rearranging molecules) and actually remove souls, absorb all cosmic energy, or one-shot ko the surfer with the anti-force blast to name a few. Without the hammer Thor can control the power cosmic (externally, not internally like the surfer) and assault his opponents with cosmic storms of far greater scale and power than what the Surfer can manage to channel through his small body.As god of the storm Thor has control over any energy flow and can whip it up into whatever form he wishes. This has been demonstrated many times. The surfer can shoot cosmic blasts out of his hands but they aren't all that impressive. He hit thor from behind a few times and couldn't even knock him off his feet. And let's not forget that Thor can let loose the god-force straight out of his own body. All he has to do is grapple the surfer and cut loose, incinerating the surfer at point blank range.
Although he would probably just do what he did before as it seemed quite easy.
You obviously dont read SS issue, all your opinion is biased on Thor, try reading some SS issue before you start downplaying SS, its just very sad the way your describing him.