I'm of the mind that Thor isn't overmatched here, and Surfer has faster flight speed but has never really shown an aptitude for a speed blitz in a 1-on-1 battle setting. Thor's also much more than a pure brawler, so I find it dubious to claim that Surfer's much more versatile than Thor.
Still, it's really very close, and anyone's opinion (provided it is backed with some form of reason) is as valid as the next guy's.
Originally posted by DigiMark007
I'm of the mind that Thor isn't overmatched here, and Surfer has faster flight speed but has never really shown an aptitude for a speed blitz in a 1-on-1 battle setting. Thor's also much more than a pure brawler, so I find it dubious to claim that Surfer's much more versatile than Thor.Still, it's really very close, and anyone's opinion (provided it is backed with some form of reason) is as valid as the next guy's.
Okay everyone references surfer and thor. Theres 3 supposedly... but i cna only think of 2. WMT ... with Surfer and beta ray bill...
And Silver Surfer #5 (or was it #4) ... but if you read silver surfer #2, surfer is fighting an enemy which he has to go all out against and barely hurts... but notices that if he hadn't had his full power taken from him, he would have defeated the enemy with but a shrug. When I get home I'll look for the comic. In any case, current surfer is a lot stronger than the past ones... and a bit more ruthless, as shown against the ?ravager? whatever annihilus's man was called.
Originally posted by rotiart
Okay everyone references surfer and thor. Theres 3 supposedly... but i cna only think of 2. WMT ... with Surfer and beta ray bill...And Silver Surfer #5 (or was it #4) ... but if you read silver surfer #2, surfer is fighting an enemy which he has to go all out against and barely hurts... but notices that if he hadn't had his full power taken from him, he would have defeated the enemy with but a shrug. When I get home I'll look for the comic. In any case, current surfer is a lot stronger than the past ones... and a bit more ruthless, as shown against the ?ravager? whatever annihilus's man was called.
Oh... very well then.. .my color ones will have to stay at home then. 😛
still surfer #5 i think is the only issue i can think of... the wmt one i don't have the issues... but i've read it a while back so i know that one two... technically you have a weakened surfer or a powered up thor in those two fights...
supposedly, theres a third fight i don't know about. anyone care to refresh my memory?
Originally posted by rotiart
Oh... very well then.. .my color ones will have to stay at home then. 😛still surfer #5 i think is the only issue i can think of... the wmt one i don't have the issues... but i've read it a while back so i know that one two... technically you have a weakened surfer or a powered up thor in those two fights...
supposedly, theres a third fight i don't know about. anyone care to refresh my memory?
Thats the one i know about. Silver surfer #5 i think... i just reread it last night. 😄 Course i read like 8-10 of the back issues last night so i could have the numbers wrong. but yah in like issue #2 Volume 1, surfer notices he is a tiny bit as powerful as he used to be. in the issue with thor, loki is empowering him to do things beyond his current ability (his weakened self) like manipulating thors hammer.
And i have read it recently but i know of the WMT comparison.
supposedly besides those two... theres a third fight?
Originally posted by Roldz
Well actually his done quite a few Speedblits nobody just scanned it..
Here ill post some gotta find it dough...
http://pg.photos.yahoo.com/ph/rroldz/detail?.dir=79d8scd&.dnm=9fe5scd.jpg&.src=ph
There he blitz from underground to top...
http://pg.photos.yahoo.com/ph/rroldz/detail?.dir=79d8scd&.dnm=278escd.jpg&.src=ph
There blitzing a bunch opponents..
http://pg.photos.yahoo.com/ph/rroldz/detail?.dir=79d8scd&.dnm=9083scd.jpg&.src=ph
Not blitzing but showing battle speed..
Theres is more too...
Hardly a speed blitz, and hes "blitzing" fodder robots, not big name characters.
SS is much more dependent on his board then Thor is upon his hammer,
But i dont really know what is the Sonic shark..
Originally posted by Mindship
Surfer basically just needs his board to fly (though his bios state he can fly w/o it).
Thor needs his hammer to do just about anything involving energy, including absorbing SS's power cosmic. Thor is much more dependent.In FF#72, when SS was newly imprisoned on Earth, he thought he could unite humanity by providing a common foe and goes on a global rampage. Torch and Thing try to stop him but fail utterly. So the military launches a cosmic-energy draining missile (designed by Reed, I believe, and really PIS if ever there was one), which absorbs all but a fraction of SS's power.
BTW, that scan (which I think is from SS#2) is the first time, I believe, that SS's power is referred to as the now-familiar "power cosmic"...prior it had always been called simply cosmic power).
So you're saying when surfer fought WMT.. he was weakened by that missile?
Originally posted by rotiart
So you're saying when surfer fought WMT.. he was weakened by that missile?
That battle was at least one whole Surfer series away, so I can't say with any certainty what power level SS was at at that time (though my guess would be he was not up to his original power level). Regardless, considering that Warrior Madness is supposed to increase Thor's power tenfold, I feel it is very reasonable for Thor to beat Surfer under those conditions (though there were a few instances of PIS in that issue too).
My gripe is with their first fight. At that time, he had already been weakened by the missile, but the issue reads like it had never happened.
Last edited by Roldz on Jul 4th, 2006 at 01:07 AM
Jul 4th, 2006 01:04 AM
This thread was last done... july 4.. 2006 almost 3 months ago.
Can you tell me how to better use the search engines? I used the top one and got some wierd message about user...
I used the bottom one and got tons of threads that just happened to mention Surfer and Thor.
I'm perplexed about how to use the search engines. I type it and get a page long of threads that are not about thor vs surfer... its a ton of other threads... where... withint the threads somewhere.. they mention thor and surfer... :/ i searched for 9 pages and found nothing thats why I made the thread. I really do try to use the search engine.
bah. got it to work. took a bit but anyways...still though, i'm a little bit annoyed that my thread got merged with another thread that was last posted on almost 3 months ago. :/
besides that. i don't feel like reading through 30 odd pages of months old posts to see what everyones comments are.
later.
I drew these from the merged thread's first page...
I nto sure if silver surfer can take hulk then yes silfer surfer wins but if he can't I dont know
thor I think never even beaten the hulk once there for people should be looking at people who have beaten the hulk and if slifer surfer has beaten them.
However, while it might be tempting to use A>B>C logic here, I don't think it really applies, because when Thor and Hulk have fought, it's basically been a brawl. AFAIK, Thor has never used his vast array of energy powers against Hulk. My guess is, if he had, he'd dispatch Hulk with comparable ease the way Surfer has (though, to my knowledge, Surfer takes Hulk's punches better than Thor does, ie, I've never seen Surfer even grimace when hit).
Originally posted by Mindship
I drew these from the merged thread's first page...Everytime Surfer and Hulk have fought, Surfer has handled Hulk with ease, whereas Thor has not.
However, while it might be tempting to use A>B>C logic here, I don't think it really applies, because when Thor and Hulk have fought, it's basically been a brawl. AFAIK, Thor has never used his vast array of energy powers against Hulk. My guess is, if he had, he'd dispatch Hulk with comparable ease the way Surfer has (though, to my knowledge, Surfer takes Hulk's punches better than Thor does, ie, I've never seen Surfer even grimace when hit).
Thor has also killed the Hulk where as Surfer has not, but guess what? Their fights with the Hulk are irrelevant to the outcome of this battle. 😉
I've seen Silver Surfer ko'd with a single hit from Thor, and this was after he stated that he was no longer going to hold back.
Originally posted by Soujaboy
Thor has also killed the Hulk where as Surfer has not,
but guess what? Their fights with the Hulk are irrelevant to the outcome of this battle. 😉
I've seen Silver Surfer ko'd with a single hit from Thor, and this was after he stated that he was no longer going to hold back.
