Originally posted by Mindship
Doesn't mean Surfer couldn't (he said to Hulk in SS# 125, "I disintegrated that tree--as easily as I could disintegrate you."😉.
Surfer is very much the pacifist, not a killer. Plus Thor killing Hulk was obviously some kind of What-if scenario, not canon. I believe there is even a What-if scenario where Surfer beats Thor, but I don't mention that because it's also not canon.Comparison through a common element makes them peripherally relevant.
ie, Warrior Madness Thor, which I stated many times was a legit outcome.
But he hasn't so.....
No actually Thor killed the Hulk and Thing with one arm along with a number of other hero's in Thor v2 number 76. This is canon and it would do you well to read up more on comics before you make judgements. 😉
The funny thing about Warrior Madness is that the common belief is that Thor was 10x stronger in that comic than normal. However this was never stated in the comic so...... ya you get my point.
Originally posted by Soujaboy
But he hasn't so.....No actually Thor killed the Hulk and Thing with one arm along with a number of other hero's in Thor v2 number 76. This is canon and it would do you well to read up more on comics before you make judgements. 😉
The funny thing about Warrior Madness is that the common belief is that Thor was 10x stronger in that comic than normal. However this was never stated in the comic so...... ya you get my point.
Originally posted by Roldz
http://img167.imageshack.us/my.php?image=brb1kt0.jpg
Read what BRB says to Surfer.... after his brought down and if thats not reason enough that they didnt want him injured, I dont know what then..
I mean rather than talking why dont they just obliterate him right there obviously his defenseless...
Ok I read it?
Ya they could have, but they didn't. Doesn't change the fact that Surfer stated that even a mad god couldn't stand up to his wrath and shortly afterwards was ko'd by this "mad god".
Originally posted by Soujaboy
Ok I read it?Ya they could have, but they didn't. Doesn't change the fact that Surfer stated that even a mad god couldn't stand up to his wrath and shortly afterwards was ko'd by this "mad god".
Originally posted by Soujaboy
1. No actually Thor killed the Hulk and Thing with one arm along with a number of other hero's in Thor v2 number 76. This is canon and it would do you well to read up more on comics before you make judgements. 😉2. The funny thing about Warrior Madness is that the common belief is that Thor was 10x stronger in that comic than normal. However this was never stated in the comic so...... ya you get my point.
1. You should have been more clear: thought you meant the time Thor snapped Hulk's neck. In any event, what you are referring to I do believe wasn't regular Thor (Rune King, I think), certainly not the same "kind of Thor" that has fought Surfer. And if that was RKT, then even more than with WMT, Surfer should not be able to defeat him. That would be reedickolus.
2. No, it wasn't mentioned in that comic, but wasn't it mentioned in Blood and Thunder?
Regardless, this was still against a Surfer with a small fraction of his own original power (and Still, a Surfer very able to disintegrate Hulk, Thing and a "number of other heroes," should he ever choose to do so).
Originally posted by Mindshiphttp://img167.imageshack.us/my.php?image=brb1kt0.jpg
2. No, it wasn't mentioned in that comic, but wasn't it mentioned in Blood and Thunder?
Thor is great, but Silver Surfer is the biggest one here. People argue about Supes vs Thor, SS just thrashes Superman around. To me this one is for the Surfer unless he feels like practicing his jobbing.
Odin took the Surfer with one hit, if King Thor can do the same thing, I do not know.
(Bumping much? I should check the dates in the threads more often)
Originally posted by Mindship
1. You should have been more clear: thought you meant the time Thor snapped Hulk's neck. In any event, what you are referring to I do believe wasn't regular Thor (Rune King, I think), certainly not the same "kind of Thor" that has fought Surfer. And if that was RKT, then even more than with WMT, Surfer should not be able to defeat him. That would be reedickolus.2. No, it wasn't mentioned in that comic, but wasn't it mentioned in Blood and Thunder?
Regardless, this was still against a Surfer with a small fraction of his own original power (and Still, a Surfer very able to disintegrate Hulk, Thing and a "number of other heroes," should he ever choose to do so).
1. It was actually King Thor, neither had possession of the Odin Power nor Mjolnir. Basically it was an enraged Thor with a single arm, and no power. So your right, it's not the same Thor who has defeated or stalemated Surfer multiple times, it was a weaker Thor.
2. No it's never been mentioned, just a common misconception among fans.
Originally posted by Bentley
Thor is great,
Originally posted by Bentley
but Silver Surfer is the biggest one here. People argue about Supes vs Thor, SS just thrashes Superman around.
Originally posted by Bentley
To me this one is for the Surfer unless he feels like practicing his jobbing.
Originally posted by Bentley
Odin took the Surfer with one hit, if King Thor can do the same thing, I do not know.
Originally posted by Bentley
(Bumping much? I should check the dates in the threads more often)
I give this fight 5/5 both ways.
The Surfer takes at LEAST seven or eight here.
Thor can't compete with his speed.
The Surfer also has the option of Chunking Thor in a black hole a few times. Thor could make it back, sure, but I doubt he'd be in the best Shape - Thor isn't as durable as Thanos is.
Beyond that, while Thor has shaken the planet with ferocious strikes, the Surfer has obliterated them with ease(Beta Ray Bill isn't in this thread, so don't even mention his name.).
The Surfer is far faster than Thor. He is far more versatile. He is far more powerful.
The only thing that Thor MIGHT have on the Surfer is raw brute strength. And even that, the Surfer could amp with the power cosmic.
Oh, and an Odinpowered Thor wins 10/10.
Regular Thor vs. Regular Surfer? Surfer, 8/10.
I love this thread.
Basically, when you get to the heart of the matter, it comes down to this:
Thor has won in a comic (yes, he has). Surfer is lots faster, so it's reasonable to assume he should win the majority if he's smart about it. But Thor is more versatile (absrobing energy and returning it tenfold is a big advantage) so unless Surfer fighting very intelligently, Thor should win.
...you'll see random opinions varying off of this, but most of the arguments I've seen come down to this fact.
Originally posted by Soljer
The Surfer takes at LEAST seven or eight here.Thor can't compete with his speed.
The Surfer also has the option of Chunking Thor in a black hole a few times. Thor could make it back, sure, but I doubt he'd be in the best Shape - Thor isn't as durable as Thanos is.
Beyond that, while Thor has shaken the planet with ferocious strikes, the Surfer has obliterated them with ease(Beta Ray Bill isn't in this thread, so don't even mention his name.).
The Surfer is far faster than Thor. He is far more versatile. He is far more powerful.
The only thing that Thor MIGHT have on the Surfer is raw brute strength. And even that, the Surfer could amp with the power cosmic.
Oh, and an Odinpowered Thor wins 10/10.
Regular Thor vs. Regular Surfer? Surfer, 8/10.
Even when Surfer was speeding through Asgard destroying all he saw Thor managed to keep up with him(with his eyes). Surfer even went as far as to say that the hammer(Mjolnir) was keeping up with him. Reading the comic Surfer seemed to believe that Mjolnir was as fast if not faster than he.
Thor has the option of god blasting Surfer, using an anti gravity blast, an anti force blast, etc. Both have may options to defeat the other.
Thor may be able to physically fight against a black hole as BRB did.
Yes BRB did Obliterate Planets, with physical strength. I guess it's a good thing that Thor and BRB were established to be equals.😖hifty:
Surfer far more powerful than Thor? Not according to Surfer. According to Surfer Thor is more power than he is even while Surfer was amped.
More versatile? Thats debatable.
Split 5/10
Originally posted by Soujaboy
Even when Surfer was speeding through Asgard destroying all he saw Thor managed to keep up with him(with his eyes). Surfer even went as far as to say that the hammer(Mjolnir) was keeping up with him. Reading the comic Surfer seemed to believe that Mjolnir was as fast if not faster than he.Thor has the option of god blasting Surfer, using an anti gravity blast, an anti force blast, etc. Both have may options to defeat the other.
Thor may be able to physically fight against a black hole as BRB did.
Yes BRB did Obliterate Planets, with physical strength. I guess it's a good thing that Thor and BRB were established to be equals.😖hifty:
Surfer far more powerful than Thor? Not according to Surfer. According to Surfer Thor is more power than he is even while Surfer was amped.
More versatile? Thats debatable.
Split 5/10
Surfer's best speed feats? More than Thor can handle. Fool got speedblitzed by mongoose.
Also, Beta Ray Bill may have some impressive feats, but until we see Thor perform them himself, they still belong to Beta Ray.
The comics also once stated that Captain America was running at nearly the speed of light. Are we to take that into every debate we go into? 😬.
Also, you may have heard of this thing called 'jobbing,' the surfer tends to do it against EVERY opponent he faces. He could have been travelling at five hundred times the speed of light, whilst creating a black hole every nanosecond, and casually unleashing planet destroying blasts just as fast.
Lastly, versatility is not debatable. Thor has some good showings of random powers from twenty years ago. More recently, and realistically, he has showings of "Hammer hits hard."
And that's about it.
Surfer has been more versatile and powerful since his inception.
Originally posted by DigiMark007
I love this thread.Basically, when you get to the heart of the matter, it comes down to this:
Thor has won in a comic (yes, he has). Surfer is lots faster, so it's reasonable to assume he should win the majority if he's smart about it. But Thor is more versatile (absrobing energy and returning it tenfold is a big advantage) so unless Surfer fighting very intelligently, Thor should win.
...you'll see random opinions varying off of this, but most of the arguments I've seen come down to this fact.
Surfer is more versatile then thor. Actually thor is not versatile at all, mjolnir is. Surfer can also absorb energy.
Originally posted by Soljer
Surfer's best speed feats? More than Thor can handle. Fool got speedblitzed by mongoose.Also, Beta Ray Bill may have some impressive feats, but until we see Thor perform them himself, they still belong to Beta Ray.
The comics also once stated that Captain America was running at nearly the speed of light. Are we to take that into every debate we go into? 😬.
Also, you may have heard of this thing called 'jobbing,' the surfer tends to do it against EVERY opponent he faces. He could have been travelling at five hundred times the speed of light, whilst creating a black hole every nanosecond, and casually unleashing planet destroying blasts just as fast.
Lastly, versatility is not debatable. Thor has some good showings of random powers from twenty years ago. More recently, and realistically, he has showings of "Hammer hits hard."
And that's about it.
Surfer has been more versatile and powerful since his inception.
Your right Thor's speed is iffy. However he has his highs and lows just as any character. One of his highs is having Mjolnir keep up with the Surfer.
Fair enough, although they are basically the same character.
Thats a different situation, thats the narrator stating as much. Surfer himself stated that Mjolnir was gaining on him, and not only that but he himself stated that Thor was more powerful.
Thor does his share of jobbing also, the fact remains that when it comes down to it Thor has bested are stalemated Surfer in every one of their battles.
Yes, and what we commonly see form Surfer is blast's out the hands. Just because a character doesn't commonly use his powers doesn't mean he can't.
No he hasn't, they both have displayed a variety of powers. Unless we count every power ever used by each character, we will never know.
