Originally posted by Philosophía
In what universe does "shouldn't be affected by a blackhole" make any kind of sense, considering Black Holes are infinitely (in the literal sense) more destructive that numerous things that have affected Thor?
In the universe where it's happened several times with characters at this level. Surfer is not alone in this (I remember Warlock has, I'm sure others have as well). You're trying to apply real-world logic here, which is often tricky at best in a comics setting. Because I don't have a definite response to your challenge here, and it seems to make sense on a rational level. But everyone here would argue that Surfer and Thor are of similar durability levels. And Surfer has (apparently, I haven't seen the scan) survived one. So...
I'd be against these characters surviving black holes as well. I'm with you there. But I'm working with what we have, not what I want to be the case.
*High-fives Philo*
Originally posted by zopzop
A galaxy (and growing) sized black hole destroyed Anomaly Maelstrom, a being with his own kinetic energy control powers, boosted by the Quantum bands, supplanting Anomaly, backed by Cosmic Awarenes, all the while working for Oblivion.Thor is NOT in that league. Even a grape sized black hole created inside or extremely close to Thor would finish him instantly.
So you're saying a black hole beats the IG?
Originally posted by DigiEven in comics, it has visibly hurt Thanos. It has been said to kill Beta Ray Bill. Unless you're saying that he's far above those (?), what you said was absurd.
In the universe where it's happened several times with characters at this level. You're trying to apply real-world logic here, which is often tricky at best in a comics setting.
Surfer was said to be protected by his own power from the blackhole - and in that same instance, he has been shown as being able to protect other people from its effects. In another comic, he was shown to be able to use a blackhole's energies to power himself up. Power cosmic ftw, I guess.
The effectiveness of blackholes, and most cosmic events in general, is dependent on how dumb the writer is feeling that particular day, that much I agree, and don't think they should be used as a judge of a character's capabilities in general.
Originally posted by zopzop
Did you read the Quasar "Cosmos in Collision" story arc? All the powers and principalities in the universe couldn't stop or reverse that black hole.
Well, I don't see why you brought up such an abstract level black hole to this discussion, it evidently has nothing to do with Thor 😕
Originally posted by Bentley
Well, I don't see why you brought up such an abstract level black hole to this discussion, it evidently has nothing to do with Thor 😕
I brought it up because if a super massive (galaxy size and growing) black hole can kill an abstract level being, even a grape sized black hole created inside Thor would kill him instantly. Thor, for all his power, isn't an abstract, he'd implode in on himself from the black holes pull.
Originally posted by zopzop
I brought it up because if a super massive (galaxy size and growing) black hole can kill an abstract level being, even a grape sized black hole created inside Thor would kill him instantly. Thor, for all his power, isn't an abstract, he'd implode in on himself from the black holes pull.
So like, you just decided that without any proof? Ok I guess.
Originally posted by Philosophía
Thanos was still evidently hurt by it, though.I think you wanted to say Superman, who's infinitely more durable than both. *high-five*
I'm grossly against characters surviving blackholes. I hate it about as much as street levelers dodging bullets after they're fired.
Word.
Originally posted by zopzopThat probably had more to do with its special nature rather than just its size.
Did you read the Quasar "Cosmos in Collision" story arc? All the powers and principalities in the universe couldn't stop or reverse that black hole.
Originally posted by PhilosophíaExcept for when it's a supernova that Superman survives. vin
The effectiveness of blackholes, and most cosmic events in general, is dependent on how dumb the writer is feeling that particular day, that much I agree, and don't think they should be used as a judge of a character's capabilities in general.