Originally posted by h1a8 A black hole was shown destroying a galaxy while no supernova in comics ever came close. Thus you didn't prove anything since I showed a counterexample.And there are Black holes that didn't do anything.
Originally posted by h1a8 Also, a gas station koed Superman for a few seconds. I guess those gas stations>>>>>nuclear bombs by your logic.We are comparing Black holes to Supernova. So in Superman comics Gas Station> Blackhole. Glad we agree.
Originally posted by h1a8 If there are examples that goes both ways then you just can't make rules in the direction that makes LEAST SENSE.In most cases Supernova will be comparable to Blackholes. Blackhole destroying the galaxies is hardly a standard showing.
Originally posted by WodensonCheapshotting someone isn't saving them.
Well, yeah, since Odin told Thor not to kill the Silver Surfer.
Originally posted by Rage.Of.OlympusThor doesn't have the stones to kill the Surfer even if he could which is highly unlikely since the Surfer's attitude change.
Pretty much. Odin couldn't let Thor kill the Surfer. Not until he heard the message.
@Rage
This is becoming a real problem of yours. You post incomplete scans when we both know how this ended up. Thanos depowered himself and still mopped the floor with the heroes. Thanos is also someone who doesn't even deem the surfer as a threat but to camp Thor this is a really big deal. Mediocrity suits you.
Wow, the last two scene have you really shooken you up. They were never about power. I mean, you were the one who said Thor didn't have the stones to kill someone and yet I posted him doing so. Even the wimpy Masterson would have done it when pushed.
I'm sorry buddy. If I knew you'd be this deeply hurt, I would have kept them to myself. Keep your chin up son.
Originally posted by kgkgThat's not the point. The point is that it is false to say that Supernovas are more destructive in comics than black holes. I provided a counterexample to prove the statement false. The end.
And there are Black holes that didn't do anything.We are comparing Black holes to Supernova. So in Superman comics Gas Station> Blackhole. Glad we agree.
In most cases Supernova will be comparable to Blackholes. Blackhole destroying the galaxies is hardly a standard showing.
Surfer's options seem simple enough:
1) physically beat Thor to death - a viable though messy tactic
2) blackhole in the head - elegant, simple and devastating tactic
3) slice and dice him with the board - very hardcore, maybe not 616 Surfer's style
4) blind Thor with illusions and let him tire himself out fighting ghosts - quite humiliating for Thor, though funny to observe
5) bullrush Thor, blast his face off at point-blank range, then zip out of range and do it again - pretty monotonous tactic, but guaranteed to be effective against Thor
6) trap Thor in the board and go have a cuppa with Sue Storm
7) trap mjolnir in a PC bubble and send it to the other end of the universe. Thor will be reduced to little more than a Savage Hulk level brick (without Savage Hulk's amping abilities).
oh and that's not even getting into the exotic/psi/mind/dimensional attacks, such as:
8) take Thor into the Astral Plane and destroy him
9) make Thor feel depressed and suicidal
10) merge with Thor and then enter the sun or a blackhole
11) send Thor to the microverse whilst mjolnir is in another dimension (via dimensional bfr)
12) dump Thor in hyperspace, see if he can tell his arse from his elbow in that dimension!
13) turn all the atmosphere around Thor into adamantium shards, leaving him with no room for movement at all - death by a thousand cuts (and some more)
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Originally posted by Rage.Of.OlympusThor didn't have the stones to kill him until Bob/Void forced him into doing so. The guy needs to be either pushed or slightly mad to start offing people. On his own he doesn't have the stones to kill the surfer even if he had the chance. It's true and you know it.
Wow, the last two scene have you really shooken you up. They were never about power. I mean, you were the one who said Thor didn't have the stones to kill someone and yet I posted him doing so. Even the wimpy Masterson would have done it when pushed.I'm sorry buddy. If I knew you'd be this deeply hurt, I would have kept them to myself. Keep your chin up son.
Masterson isn't the real Thor anyways. The things I have to explain to you kids sometimes. Sheesh.
Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympusdon't sweat it quan. rage already knows thanos was in no danger considering he's not only physically unbeatable there, but facing the weakest thor; he's already whooped the original at his own weakest level, and stood up to the enraged thor with the same power-up thanos had in that scan....and got bored of him.
Originally posted by WodensonI don't understand.
So we're agreed that, if the Surfer has to pull out a black hole to beat Thor, he'd lose for the majority.
Also he has sending the board behind Thor at a million times c
or temporary trapping his hammer in a force field and going to work on him. Or amping beyond Thor's understanding and then treating him like a child.