Originally posted by h1a8
I don't understand.
If SS pulls out the black hole strategy it should be an instant win.Also he has sending the board behind Thor at a million times c
or temporary trapping his hammer in a force field and going to work on him. Or amping beyond Thor's understanding and then treating him like a child.
And you really don't think Thor has likewise stupid and cheesy methods of ruining Norrin's day?
Originally posted by JakeTheBank
And you really don't think Thor has likewise stupid and cheesy methods of ruining Norrin's day?
Can't see what Thor can do that would not be easily countered or deflected or outright tanked by Surfer.
Originally posted by janus77
...stand still for an hour and mumble some stuff in order to fire a blast?Can't see what Thor can do that would not be easily countered or deflected or outright tanked by Surfer.
Drain his life essence, tank anything Surfer throws at him and send it back anywhere from x10 to x100 power, far better energy absorption, can sneak attack Norrin from behind with a Mjolnir toss as easily as Norrin can do the board trick, etc.
I can't see how anyone can honestly act like Surfer (or Thor) has this easy and can just end the fight with some bullshit cheap tactics they hardly ever use in comics.
Originally posted by JakeTheBank
Drain his life essence, tank anything Surfer throws at him and send it back anywhere from x10 to x100 power, far better energy absorption, can sneak attack Norrin from behind with a Mjolnir toss as easily as Norrin can do the board trick, etc.I can't see how anyone can honestly act like Surfer (or Thor) has this easy and can just end the fight with some bullshit cheap tactics they hardly ever use in comics.
how do you see that happening? I mean, he'll spot that Thor's swinging his arm again, like an essex girl in Ibiza, he'll notice the Hammer make its ponderously slow voyage out towards Surfer, he'll think "aha! I shall now focus my entire attention upon staring at Thor and monologuing, forgetting that the hammer tends to return to Thor's hand" and just get clobbered, right?
Also, the board responds to his slightest thought, Mjolnir is nowhere near as mobile or useful in terms of functioning as a projectile weapon.
I mean "board" ... left Thor on his arse buried in rubble and left horseface with even worse problems. and if he chose to get vicious, he could make its edges sharp and give it an adamantium coating ... insta-kill!
Noway is the mallet as useful as Surfer's board, for such an attack.
2) Surfer can absorb and return fire just as easily, he's done it on multiple occasions
3) Surfer's able to control his own astral form better than that, Thor wouldn't get far trying to "drain his essence" (his "essence" is Power Cosmic), and if this has some sort of biological component, then Surfer already has the far superior feats... he's evolved life billions of years, planet-wide.
Surfer just turns Thor into an amoeba.
Originally posted by janus77
1) Thor can't "sneak attack" with Mjolnir, unless his dad is busy distracting Surfer with waffle.how do you see that happening? I mean, he'll spot that Thor's swinging his arm again, like an essex girl in Ibiza, he'll notice the Hammer make its ponderously slow voyage out towards Surfer, he'll think "aha! I shall now focus my entire attention upon staring at Thor and monologuing, forgetting that the hammer tends to return to Thor's hand" and just get clobbered, right?
Also, the board responds to his slightest thought, Mjolnir is nowhere near as mobile or useful in terms of functioning as a projectile weapon.
I mean "board" ... left Thor on his arse buried in rubble and left horseface with even worse problems. and if he chose to get vicious, he could make its edges sharp and give it an adamantium coating ... insta-kill!
Noway is the mallet as useful as Surfer's board, for such an attack.
2) Surfer can absorb and return fire just as easily, he's done it on multiple occasions
3) Surfer's able to control his own astral form better than that, Thor wouldn't get far trying to "drain his essence" (his "essence" is Power Cosmic), and if this has some sort of biological component, then Surfer already has the far superior feats... he's evolved life billions of years, planet-wide.
Surfer just turns Thor into an amoeba.
1.) I can't tell if you're being serious or just repping Surfer in a comical and lighthearted manner, so I'll briefly explain my stance. Thor can throw his hammer past Surfer and it could strike him back on the return path, something it has been shown to do several times in comics. He can control the path of Mjolnir or just home it on the target in question and watch as it assails from multiple directions, something actually shown in comics, once more.
2.) Thor is Surfer's superior in this department.
3.) Loki can survive being beheaded among other things and had an immortal soul/essence the likes of which staggered Dr. Strange among others. And Thor still left him dead. Unless you think Surfer's energy control/manipulation exceed that of which Mjolnir has achieved.
So, not serious. Gotcha.
Case in point, all things being considered equally, the methods of Surfer beating Thor which have been mentioned in this thread are incredibly unlikely and wishful thinking at best, just like the idea of Thor summoning the force of a thousand worlds worth of hurricanes or instantly godblasting him to hell and back.
Originally posted by WodensonCouldn't be further from the truth unlike Thor who has been embarrassed by Hulk in the past few years Surfer went fistacuffs and looked better than the Hulk briefly in melee combat.
So we've established that the Surfer does not want to get into a fire-fight with Thor and he does not want to get into a physical confrontation with Thor. Meaning that the Surfer's fans have to desperately sift through back issues looking for cheese scrapings.
Originally posted by JakeTheBank
Drain his life essence, tank anything Surfer throws at him and send it back anywhere from x10 to x100 power, far better energy absorption, can sneak attack Norrin from behind with a Mjolnir toss as easily as Norrin can do the board trick, etc.I can't see how anyone can honestly act like Surfer (or Thor) has this easy and can just end the fight with some bullshit cheap tactics they hardly ever use in comics.
Surfer can resist his life essence (soul I assume) from being drained by Thor. Also Surfer can drain him and any energy coming from the hammer. Thor can't absorb any of Surfer's blasts if his hammer is trapped for a small moment. If Thor throws the hammer then Surfer traps it and goes to town on the defenseless Thor.
Also, Surfer defend himself from both behind and front at the same time where Thor can't.
Originally posted by h1a8
Surfer can resist his life essence (soul I assume) from being drained by Thor. Also Surfer can drain him and any energy coming from the hammer. Thor can't absorb any of Surfer's blasts if his hammer is trapped for a small moment. If Thor throws the hammer then Surfer traps it and goes to town on the defenseless Thor.Also, Surfer defend himself from both behind and front at the same time where Thor can't.
Sure, he can resist it. Doesn't mean he'll stop it. Loki can resist that avenue of attack, but Mjolnir still got the job done. Surfer's not draining Mjolnir of anything, let's be real. Thor has better energy defenses than Surfer does. Thor has also shown the ability to instantly summon Mjolnir back and can still access his weather based powers without it.
Uh, yes, yes Thor can defend from multiple angles included in front and behind him at once.
Originally posted by OneDumbG0
^ Surfer tried it in their first fight. Thor busted it.
Was it PIS, like in his fight with Quasar? You know; the hammer is trapped and you have Thor dead to rights and you just sit there and not press your attack and allow Thor to break the field and reclaim his hammer? 😘