Silver Surfer vs Thor

Well, Quasar could just have been focusing his concentration on Mjolnir. He can multitask, but his constructs aren't as strong. Here's the scene:
http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e139/RageOfTheGod/Thor/ThorvsSilverSurfer1fight2.jpg
http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e139/RageOfTheGod/Thor/ThorvsSilverSurfer1fight3.jpg
http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e139/RageOfTheGod/Thor/ThorvsSilverSurfer1fight4.jpg
http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e139/RageOfTheGod/Thor/ThorvsSilverSurfer1fight5.jpg

Originally posted by quanchi112
Thor didn't have the stones to kill him until Bob/Void forced him into doing so. The guy needs to be either pushed or slightly mad to start offing people. On his own he doesn't have the stones to kill the surfer even if he had the chance. It's true and you know it.

Masterson isn't the real Thor anyways. The things I have to explain to you kids sometimes. Sheesh.

I see that you're still not at 100% yet. Take some time to recuperate, it's okay.

Thor doesn't have the stones to kill people according to you yet here you admit that Thor would kill someone if he got slightly enraged?

Yet you just said if slightly enraged, he would kill someone. Do you think so little of the Surfer that you don't believe he could even get Thor riled up? Stop being such a Thor bag and lowballing a herald of Galactus.

Smh...

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
Well, Quasar could just have been focusing his concentration on Mjolnir. He can multitask, but his constructs aren't as strong. Here's the scene:
http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e139/RageOfTheGod/Thor/ThorvsSilverSurfer1fight2.jpg
http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e139/RageOfTheGod/Thor/ThorvsSilverSurfer1fight3.jpg
http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e139/RageOfTheGod/Thor/ThorvsSilverSurfer1fight4.jpg
http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e139/RageOfTheGod/Thor/ThorvsSilverSurfer1fight5.jpg

Bah Surfer never entrapped the Hammer then. Those scans are full of a) Loki interfering and b) Thor holding back.

Loki was amping Surfer for the record. Here's the Quasar scene:
http://i779.photobucket.com/albums/yy73/R-O-G/Thor/MastersonThorvsQuasar1.jpg
http://i779.photobucket.com/albums/yy73/R-O-G/Thor/MastersonThorvsQuasar2.jpg
http://i779.photobucket.com/albums/yy73/R-O-G/Thor/MastersonThorvsQuasar3.jpg

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
Loki was amping Surfer for the record. Here's the Quasar scene:
http://i779.photobucket.com/albums/yy73/R-O-G/Thor/MastersonThorvsQuasar1.jpg
http://i779.photobucket.com/albums/yy73/R-O-G/Thor/MastersonThorvsQuasar2.jpg
http://i779.photobucket.com/albums/yy73/R-O-G/Thor/MastersonThorvsQuasar3.jpg

Yeah Quasar had him dead to rights, but didn't press the attack. It would have been funny if as soon as he entrapped Mjolnir in the quantum bubble, he Quantum Jumped to Thor and trapped him in the Quantum Zone.

But yeah Surfer didn't do jack to Mjolnir under his own power. Loki amped him and even then Thor was holding back.

Like I said, it could easily be explained as Quasar focusing his mind. But if he quickly attempted a Quantum Jump, it most likely would have worked on Masterson. If it was the real Thor, he would summoned Mjolnir back to him through sheer force and/or teleportation.

No need to put a forcefield around Mjolnir. If he tossed it at Surfer it would probably be better and smarter to transmute the air around it into a giant ball (say 9'-15' in diameter) of some rubbery adhesive so that when Thor summons it back to his hand he can't wield it as he can't actually grab it.

How many times has Surfer done such things with his power? Because people keep saying it, but I've never seen it.

Assuming he could do such a thing, why not encase the hammer in pure adamantium? Fight would be over pretty fast then.

Haha, what the hell? If suddenly we're controlling the characters, then Thor would simply teleport Mjolnir into his hand from whatever substance Surfer imprisons it in.

He's encased several people in substances, as well as encasing people in his board (Genis-Vell iirc, though he was Legacy at the time). I'll see if I can find scans. They should be in Surfer's respect thread, actually. Goober was pretty thorough. If I recall, he also did something really weird to Lunatik like binding his life force to a planet so that if he (Lunatik) were to ever leave he'd die. Surfer could be a dick and bind Thor's life force to a random rock lying on the ground and then just toss it off world. As lame as it is, it could be game/set/match (though likely hard for anyone to accept).

The only time I recall Thor tping Mjolnir to his hand when it was consumed the Terminex Prime. But even then he had to chant some prayer/spell or something.

I really don't see that happening in a fight vs the Surfer.

Another thing to consider is that Surfer can encase Thor's hands just as easily. That's be another smart yet cheap tactic. Form metal blocks on both his hands and then bind them magnetically or molecularly. That's assuming Thor does a hammer toss though. In scenarios where Thor would let the Hammer escape his grasp, Surfer holds a distinct advantage. In scenarios where he keeps the hammer in his hand, Surfer's best bet would be to create restraints so that Thor's can't twirl Mjolnir to form barriers, etc. Encasing Thor's head would be a good idea as well.

I see what Delph is getting at... Surfer creates Hulk hands around Thor's hands and hammer, then he makes Thor KO himself

Originally posted by illadelph12
He's encased several people in substances, as well as encasing people in his board (Genis-Vell iirc, though he was Legacy at the time). I'll see if I can find scans. They should be in Surfer's respect thread, actually. Goober was pretty thorough. If I recall, he also did something really weird to Lunatik like binding his life force to a planet so that if he (Lunatik) were to ever leave he'd die. Surfer could be a dick and bind Thor's life force to a random rock lying on the ground and then just toss it off world. As lame as it is, it could be game/set/match (though likely hard for anyone to accept).

Originally posted by illadelph12
Another thing to consider is that Surfer can encase Thor's hands just as easily. That's be another smart yet cheap tactic. Form metal blocks on both his hands and then bind them magnetically or molecularly. That's assuming Thor does a hammer toss though. In scenarios where Thor would let the Hammer escape his grasp, Surfer holds a distinct advantage. In scenarios where he keeps the hammer in his hand, Surfer's best bet would be to create restraints so that Thor's can't twirl Mjolnir to form barriers, etc. Encasing Thor's head would be a good idea as well.

😂

Anyways, here's the scene I had in mind:
http://i779.photobucket.com/albums/yy73/R-O-G/Thor/DefeatsLoki59.jpg
http://i779.photobucket.com/albums/yy73/R-O-G/Thor/DefeatsLoki60.jpg

Thor doesn't have to be holding on to Mjolnir for it to teleport. Makes sense, he can even order it to absorb energy when it's out of his hands.

Originally posted by Sr J-Bieb
I see what Delph is getting at... Surfer creates Hulk hands around Thor's hands and hammer, then he makes Thor KO himself

Originally posted by h1a8
I don't understand.
If SS pulls out the black hole strategy it should be an instant win.

What I meant is that since a large number of pages have been focused on black holes, you have conceded that all other arguments accept black holes would lose. It is the argument you have chosen to champion.

When we're dealing with such an argument, we have to consider:

1) The likelihood
2) The plausibility
3) The defense

The likelihood is near zero, the plausibility worse, and Thor's defense is a big question mark. He could very well survive such a phenomenon, since he's a supernatural deity that defies physical laws, and black holes tend to job in comics.

Also he has sending the board behind Thor at a million times c or temporary trapping his hammer in a force field and going to work on him.

You keep making arguments that involve the Surfer staying away from a direct confrontation with Thor. As do most SS fans. It's quite telling.

Or amping beyond Thor's understanding and then treating him like a child.

When has the Surfer done this? Besides never, I mean. OTOH, Thor starts out at a level of strength that makes the Surfer's jaw drop (see their first encounter).

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
Well, Quasar could just have been focusing his concentration on Mjolnir. He can multitask, but his constructs aren't as strong. Here's the scene:
http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e139/RageOfTheGod/Thor/ThorvsSilverSurfer1fight2.jpg
http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e139/RageOfTheGod/Thor/ThorvsSilverSurfer1fight3.jpg
http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e139/RageOfTheGod/Thor/ThorvsSilverSurfer1fight4.jpg
http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e139/RageOfTheGod/Thor/ThorvsSilverSurfer1fight5.jpg

I see that you're still not at 100% yet. Take some time to recuperate, it's okay.

Thor doesn't have the stones to kill people according to you yet here you admit that Thor would kill someone if he got slightly enraged?

Yet you just said if slightly enraged, he would kill someone. Do you think so little of the Surfer that you don't believe he could even get Thor riled up? Stop being such a Thor bag and lowballing a herald of Galactus.

Originally posted by illadelph12
No need to put a forcefield around Mjolnir. If he tossed it at Surfer it would probably be better and smarter to transmute the air around it into a giant ball (say 9'-15' in diameter) of some rubbery adhesive so that when Thor summons it back to his hand he can't wield it as he can't actually grab it.

😐

Thor now wins.

Originally posted by JakeTheBank
Sure, he can resist it. Doesn't mean he'll stop it. Loki can resist that avenue of attack, but Mjolnir still got the job done. Surfer's not draining Mjolnir of anything, let's be real. Thor has better energy defenses than Surfer does. Thor has also shown the ability to instantly summon Mjolnir back and can still access his weather based powers without it.

Uh, yes, yes Thor can defend from multiple angles included in front and behind him at once.

Thor can't instantly summon the hammer back if it's trapped. It will come back but far from instantly. Thor would just be an open duck ready to be cooked.

Originally posted by zopzop
@h1a8

Has the Surfer ever attempted to trap Mjolnir in a status field before? I think Quasar did it once and then just stood there as Thor broke the force bubble and got Mjolnir back 😆 Comic book PIS at it's finest!

Surfer attempts to trap Mjolnir? Thor instantly has it teleport to his hand.

Surfer creates a black hole? Thor shrugs, overpowers it, and rips Surfer's head off.

I lol'd at Surfer beating Thor through energy absorption though. Surfer always says a little prayer before engaging Thor, hoping that the Odinson never turns Mjolnir's energy absorption directly against him as it would pretty be the end of that bald and glinting bastard.