Originally posted by WodensonI'm the type that argues a good point until it is beaten. I have consider other alternatives but I favor the unbeatable one most. Why is the likelihood near zero? Surfer has done it on multiple occasions and thus since he fights to the best of his abilities he can and will use it if necessary. Thus it's plausible as well.
What I meant is that since a large number of pages have been focused on black holes, you have conceded that all other arguments accept black holes would lose. It is the argument you have chosen to champion.When we're dealing with such an argument, we have to consider:
1) The likelihood
2) The plausibility
3) The defenseThe likelihood is near zero, the plausibility worse, and Thor's defense is a big question mark. He could very well survive such a phenomenon, since he's a supernatural deity that defies physical laws, and black holes tend to job in comics.
You keep making arguments that involve the Surfer staying away from a direct confrontation with Thor. As do most SS fans. It's quite telling.
When has the Surfer done this? Besides never, I mean. OTOH, Thor starts out at a level of strength that makes the Surfer's jaw drop (see their first encounter).
I disagree. Surfer is far more powerful than he's ever been. I wouldn't be surprised if he is stronger than Thor without amping. He fared more impressive against Bill and Hulk than Thor ever did. He can probably almost one shot him with a punch like he did Bill. You are forgetting that he has shields, can phase, can use his board to attack, can amp far beyond Thor, etc.