Damborgson
King of the Damboys
Originally posted by Tar-Antado
who says i got nothing? there's plenty of respect threads everywhere. i've got a life, dude.
That post...didn't seem coherent with itself. But anyway:
Originally posted by Tar-Antado
go knock yourself out. i do admit that Thor is normally stronger but Norrin can amp. I give him speed, durability, energy projection, intelligence and yes versatility. i don't think i was hard-pressed at all.
I'm aware of Norrin's typical lightyear's in moments type feats, he's done those plenty but Thor has his own: http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/scale_super/11113/111132409/3425615-untitled.jpg
Thor can travel fast enough to tear through dimensions as well.
About energy projection, what could Surfer possibly have that outdoes the godblast? And even without using that, Thor can bring lightning that casually knocks out high heralds like Hulk, or tears open trans tiers like Void-Force Sentry.
I wouldn't be able to speak on Surfer's intelligence, I haven't seen much of that outright in him, but if it comes to mental resistance, he's been outdone by Thor already: http://www.turboimagehost.com/p/16128471/Thor_Annual-Zone_019.jpg.html
That's after Thor's mind had already been assaulted to the point of near collapse also. Surfer was on his knees in moments.
Versatility, I can agree goes slightly to Surfer, but there isn't much Thor can't do. Reality becomes a plaything when he feels like using something other than hammer and lighting. He can literally trap his opponents in spaces between time and space, phase them into realities, sift through dimensions, transmute on a whim, etc. Surfer has some absurdly exotic feats like molecular control on a level where he can change his form to snow or something like that, but Thor also has misc innate godly abilities that are ridiculous in scope such as being able to gain will from prayer, tap into his own godly energies, yadda yadda. If we were to make a list of each ability that the character's have, and compare how many unique abilities we could come up with, it would be as close as it gets.
Point being, you can hate him, which you do, but he is what he is. In this case, he's Surfer's superior. Even if ever so slightly.
Originally posted by zopzop
Planetary level TP
Planetary level matter manipulation
Time Travel (in both directions forward and backwards)
Phasing
Creating Singularities (even INSIDE other beings)
Creating Life/Evolving Life (even billions of years worth of evolution in seconds)
Raising the Dead (even Gods)No being under skyfather is matching Surfer in terms of sheer versatility of power AND scope.
-Planetary power absorption
-Storm control on a cosmic scale
-Thor had his time travel abilities back in the day, too bad they were taken away. -pouts-
-Able to go through dimensions on a whim
-Able to phase others in between time and space
-Planetary sized portals, meaning he can wipe out worlds on a whim
-His own body is capable of absorbing limitless energy and harness it ala godbomb style
-Can enchant common objects into items of power
-He can also fracture reality through brute force, enough for an opponent to get sucked through that fracture out of our reality.
It feels like they both have the power to do things the other can't on occasion. I don't remember any instances of Thor resurrecting someone without the Odin Force off the top of my head.
