Vader Vs. Dr. Doom

Originally posted by demigawd
*cough* squirrel girl *cough* Hawkeye sneeze arrow *cough* Spider-Man *wheeze*

Might wanna note the bit where I said he's DONE many things that REMAIN consistant. Never said there were no inconsitancies.

Try actually keeping to what's relevant.

-AC

Originally posted by Alpha Centauri
I don't buy into "the force".

-AC

"Ancient weapons and hokey religions are no match for a good blaster at your side kid"

Han's arrogance led him to be frozen in carbonite....... maybe there's a lesson there..... 😛

No, Lando Calrissian's betrayal lead him to be frozen in carbonite.

While we're being technical, lets use fact.

-AC

hey, he said a blaster was better than the force, he bumped into Vader, used his blaster and got it ripped out of his hand....... that's a fact

He fired one measly shot out of instinct and got it removed yes.

Not taking anything away from bad, he's a bad ass by reputation. Just don't think he can beat Doom is all.

Han Solo isn't Doom.

-AC

i know, all i was saying at first was how similar your words were to Han's

"I don't buy into "the force"."

"Ancient weapons and hokey religions are no match for a good blaster at your side kid"

'I can't believe it's not butter'.

Originally posted by Alpha Centauri
What the hell....? I never said I throw out stories depending on writers. Where in God's name are you getting this? I said that SOME writers have different ideas of what realistic is. Then followed it with, 'I won't go into that'. Stop falsifying things.

Screwed up Marvel continuity? All we ever see in the comics OR the movies, is Vader walking around, performing the occasional feat with the alleged force that has never been seen. The force is the product of one man and one man only. Doom has done many things under many different writers that remain consistant.

I never ignored your example. If telling yourself that makes you sleep better, rock and roll 😆.

-AC

you have yet to address the fact that vader was able to move an entire fleet out of range of a supernova.... you, once again, claim that vader has done nothing substancial in the movies (which is true) or comics (which is far from the truth)

Originally posted by Kontraz
you have yet to address the fact that vader was able to move an entire fleet out of range of a supernova.... you, once again, claim that vader has done nothing substancial in the movies (which is true) or comics (which is far from the truth)

Besides the fact that I referred to it in my last post?

Don't be a detective, that's my advice.

If you think Vader would win, you go boy.

It's clearly coming down to believers of the force, or not. I'm not, you clearly are.

-AC

umm... did i say vader would win? Maybe you should do a little bit more of that reading you are always telling others to do 😉

and yes, you did mention my mentioning vader's ability, but you have yet to use reference it in the arguement itself.

I dunno, did you?

If you read again I said "If you think Vader would win, you go boy".

Didn't actually imply you thought he did, just suggested that if you did, good for you.

😆

Fun this.

EDIT: I've already used it. I'm not here to cater for you. You brought it up, I included it.

-AC

Originally posted by Alpha Centauri
Besides the fact that I referred to it in my last post?

Don't be a detective, that's my advice.

If you think Vader would win, you go boy.

It's clearly coming down to believers of the force, or not. I'm not, you clearly are.

-AC

"if you think vader would win, you go boy"
thats an implication in context of the arguement

"you clearly are"
a believer of the force? wtf are you even talking about? rl? f*ck no. In star wars... umm... duh? As far as this fight goes... if you say that i believe in the force for this fight, it is another implication that you think i'm going for vader.

Let's try again without making assumptions to aid yourself.

I said 'If you think Vader would win, you go boy'. Bringing forth the suggestion that you might possibly think he will. I was in no way suggesting you actually do, factually. Because I don't know that you are or not.

I said 'It's clearly coming down to believers of the force, or not. I'm not, you clearly are.' Because it is, and in the SW Universe, you believe in the force, correct? Exactly.

Where in there did I say 'You believe in the force so you're voting for Vader'? Short answer: I didn't, you assumed so.

I couldn't care less if you think Vader OR Doom would win. So now we've cleared it up, you can stop randomly dragging this into a misintepretation contest.

-AC

how the h*ll can you claim that the force doesnt exist in SW then???

I dunno, how can I? Because I certainly didn't.

I'm willing to bet you read something and did another one of your miraculous assumptions though.

-AC

"I said 'It's clearly coming down to believers of the force, or not. I'm not, you clearly are.' Because it is, and in the SW Universe, you believe in the force, correct? Exactly."

and you said you didnt, correct? exactly

Once again misinterpreting my usage of a word.

In Star Wars, the force exists. I know this, you know this. Han Solo doesn't BELIEVE in it though does he? I KNOW it exists, I don't BELIEVE that is all the people claim it to be. Regardless.

The very fact that I'm referring to it shows that I acknowledge it's existance in the SW Universe.

Are we going to stop this? Or are you scanning my posts for more stuff to misinterpret?

-AC

Originally posted by Alpha Centauri

He fired one measly shot out of instinct and got it removed yes.

Han Solo isn't Doom.

-AC

If I'm correct, Solo fired more than one measly shot in that scene. He let of a good 5 shots and Vader blocked every blast with his hands effortlessly only to quickly remove it out of Solo's hand, just to tell the scoundrel "We would be honored,..by your presence.."

I don't remember Han Solo standing there firing at Vader. Because the doors opened and Han Solo turned, did a double take, reached for his gun and let a blast off. He might have for two at most.

I don't remember Vader standing there blocking 5 shots coz it was an ambush. It was fast.

-AC

I can imagine Dr. Doom in Solo position. Underestimating Vader as Aplha does. Shooting at Vader with a gun that Vader deflects with his hands and pulling away the weapon via the force in Dr. Dooms castle.

Just an image.