The Bible

Based on the beliefs of the christian right in America when Jesus said to "heal the sick" what he really meant was to "profit from the illnesses of the sick".

When he said to "feed the hungry" what he really meant was to "profit from food values based on market economics".

Despite the obvious portrait of Jesus being a socialist based on his actions in the bible it is clear that Jesus was really a venture capitalist. Just ask the christian right.

I hear they are selling time shares in heaven and the market is up.

Spam thread. And...sock? Why, Erebus, why?

Originally posted by DigiMark007
Spam thread. And...sock? Why, Erebus, why?

A spam thread would be me posting for the intention of selling something, I'm not.

I am trying to provoke thought though as to the beliefs of most right wing Christians in America appear contrary to the life of Jesus so I feel this is on topic and relevant

And that is not the way to do it. I agree with you in a way but the approach is offense to my intellect.

Originally posted by chithappens
And that is not the way to do it. I agree with you in a way but the approach is offense to my intellect.

Well enlighten me then, what is the proper way? I see nothing wrong with what I posted. It raises a very serious legitimate point.

Originally posted by Darth_Erebus2
A spam thread would be me posting for the intention of selling something, I'm not.

I am trying to provoke thought though as to the beliefs of most right wing Christians in America appear contrary to the life of Jesus so I feel this is on topic and relevant

No, that would be an advertisement thread. Jesus, a venture capitalist? Um...cool. It's a thinly veiled attack against people you disagree with, which is why chit said he was offended. If I was Christian, I'd probably be offended too. So bashing, spam...call it what you want.

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Also, you haven't answered the sock question, which is the more serious of the two issues.

I'm not a Christian but I seek to learn about as many religions as I can so I can find my answer (might not line up with any particular way of thought but it is important to understand different ways of thought).

I was simply offended because it does not offer examples and merely states an opinion which should insult anyone; hence, me saying it offended my "intellect" and not my "soul/beliefs/etc."

Originally posted by Darth_Erebus2
Based on the beliefs of the christian right in America when Jesus said to "heal the sick" what he really meant was to "profit from the illnesses of the sick".

When he said to "feed the hungry" what he really meant was to "profit from food values based on market economics".

Despite the obvious portrait of Jesus being a socialist based on his actions in the bible it is clear that Jesus was really a venture capitalist. Just ask the christian right.

I hear they are selling time shares in heaven and the market is up.

Your point is valid. Christianity is a business in America. The Bible has been abused for the Conservative Right's agendas.

Originally posted by Marchello
***(1)Jesus reminds a woman about her adulterous affairs [Matthew 5:32;John 4:18].
(2)Jesus hurts someone's feelings [Matthew 19:21-22].
(3)Jesus calls a group of religious people "evil" snakes [Matthew 16:23].
(4)Jesus calls one of His own disciples "Satan" [Matthew 16:23]. Gee, it was "pope" Peter!!!
(5)Jesus accuses one of His disciples of being "a devil" [John 6:70].
(6)Jesus taught that MANY people will one day BURN IN HELL. Everyone likes to think about the "God loves you" Jesus...but no one wants to think about the "You're going to burn in HELL" Jesus. Well, here He is: "Then shall He say also unto them on the left hand, 'Depart from me, ye CURSED, into EVERLASTING FIRE, prepared for the devil and his angels...' [Matthew 25:41-46].
(7)Jesus said, do it my way, or BURN IN HELL when you die: "Jesus saith unto him, 'I am the WAY, the TRUTH, and the LIFE: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me' [John 14:6]. Simply put...it's JESUS or HELL! Opray Winfrey is on the WRONG path...Imperial Sumara is on the WRONG path...Goddess Kali is on the WRONG path...FeceMan is on the WRONG path...MOST of humanity is on the WRONG path. There is only ONE path--->Jesus Christ--->the WAY, the TRUTH and the LIFE.

Marchello

i can already see the flag saying EVERY1 BUT ME IS WRONG waving with glitter, on a pole with a downward arrow saying "THE WAY, THE TRUTH AND THE LIGHT", which is shoved up your ASS. 💃

im curious, who was it, yahweh, or just the gay preacher at your ministry who administered such treatment on you in your choir boy days?

Originally posted by Nellinator
Clarification: Jesus was not addressing his disciple in Matthew 16:23, but was directly speaking to Satan who was speaking through Peter. Second, preaching to non-believers is different than teaching believers.

B-because they question the nonsense and would like evidence?

Originally posted by Bardock42
B-because they question the nonsense and would like evidence?

Originally posted by DigiMark007
No, that would be an advertisement thread. Jesus, a venture capitalist? Um...cool. It's a thinly veiled attack against people you disagree with, which is why chit said he was offended. If I was Christian, I'd probably be offended too. So bashing, spam...call it what you want.

🙄

Also, you haven't answered the sock question, which is the more serious of the two issues.

I'm not sure what you mean by sock. I wasn't "attacking" anybody. I was only pointing out that many right wing "christians" neither live, act, or believe anything that Jesus teaches in the Bible, especially when it comes to looking out for others. Christianity teaches about healing the sick, but most right wing Christians oppose universal health care. Etc Etc

Originally posted by Nellinator
Nope. More because salvation is far different that disputable matters of faith. The message for non-believers is what is important, ie. the acceptance of Jesus Christ. Other things are for those that have accepted that so they can grow in faith. Growing in faith is quite a bit different and a non-believer isn't going to do it obviously because they don't have faith in the first place.

Healing the sick is what Jesus did WITHOUT getting paid for it, he fed loads of hungry followers for NOTHING. The world governments and industry make profit from other peoples suffering,yes, But it has has nothing to do with the teachings of any religion as far as I know.

Unfortunately the crazed hunger for wealth is what is causing so much misery in the world. Get rid of Money (which doesn´t actually exist anymore its just numbers on computers), return to bartering, black market etc and cut out the Banks for while and something may be changed, but I doubt it.

I agree with that.

Originally posted by Darth_Erebus2
I'm not sure what you mean by sock. I wasn't "attacking" anybody. I was only pointing out that many right wing "christians" neither live, act, or believe anything that Jesus teaches in the Bible, especially when it comes to looking out for others. Christianity teaches about healing the sick, but most right wing Christians oppose universal health care. Etc Etc

A sock is another account, which you have created (your original name was Darth_Erebus), and which is also not allowed on KMC. If a valid explanation is not given, I'm going to have to resort to formal warnings, and reporting it to the globals where one of the accounts will likely be banned.

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Beyond that, Universal Health Care has it's own problems. It's an economic and political issue, not really a moral/religious one...I don't think anyone would oppose fair health coverage, but there's disagreements over HOW to do it. You're mixing up meanings.

And people acting hypocritically is nothing new....for any religion. So it's a valid point, but a rather obvious attack that need not limit its scope to simply Christianity.

Originally posted by Bicnarok
Healing the sick is what Jesus did WITHOUT getting paid for it, he fed loads of hungry followers for NOTHING. The world governments and industry make profit from other peoples suffering,yes, But it has has nothing to do with the teachings of any religion as far as I know.

Unfortunately the crazed hunger for wealth is what is causing so much misery in the world. Get rid of Money (which doesn´t actually exist anymore its just numbers on computers), return to bartering, black market etc and cut out the Banks for while and something may be changed, but I doubt it.

Yeah....people would invent money.

Beyond that, Universal Health Care has it's own problems. It's an economic and political issue, not really a moral/religious one...I don't think anyone would oppose fair health coverage, but there's disagreements over HOW to do it. You're mixing up meanings.

Originally posted by Bicnarok
Unfortunately the crazed hunger for wealth is what is causing so much misery in the world. Get rid of Money (which doesn´t actually exist anymore its just numbers on computers), return to bartering, black market etc and cut out the Banks for while and something may be changed, but I doubt it.

It wouldn't work - Black Markets are completely unregulated and are without checks or balances thus prices are whatever the person selling wants to make them.

Bartering wouldn't work in todays scale of society - we are to complex, there are to many of us doing jobs that don't produce readily barterable supplies. It is essentially supply and demand at its most pure. "I have something you want, you have something I want, let us barter" - (eg food for services).

What would a receptionist barter, or a person who packs shelves at a supermarket? There time? Services? "If you do three hours shelf packing you can take 10 medium sized items from the shelves."

Originally posted by backdoorman
On the contrary, I think Universal Healthcare is very much a moral issue. Not unlike many if not most political affairs.

If this is what you think I said, you didn't read all of it. It's the "how" of it that holds people up, because there's various ways to tackle the problem, and no easy solution...but the general aim is the same. So is it a moral issue? Sure. But not in the sense that there's disagreement morally...simply logistically.