Originally posted by SpearofDestinynoneup
http://www.skepticsannotatedbible.com/cruelty/long.html
Originally posted by SpearofDestiny
To sum up what you are saying:"[b]Yes, if someone beleives the wrong thing, slaughtering them is justifiable"
"If kids mock an adult, it would be justifiable to chop those children into pieces"
So basically if a group of Hindu or Buddhist, or even Atheist kids make fun of an adult Christian, then those children should be hacked to death.
*This is why Christianity needs to stay out of Government. Thanks for proving my point Feceman. [/B]
Way to fail at reading comprehension. You read what you wanted to read and selectively ignore the rest.
Notice how I said that the people involved in the mob were not children? Notice how I said that there was violence insinuated? Notice how I said that Elisha was a servant of God who was busy working miracles? Notice how I said that they were making a direct affront to God?
Yeah.
Did you notice that Elisha didn't actually kill anyone? Did you notice that it was not human hands that slew the crowd? Did you notice that Christians are commanded not to kill others and the only exceptions to this are in certain cases that we assume qualify (such as self-defense)?
You fail.
I Corinthians 2:6-16 yet again proves itself to be true.
Originally posted by FeceMan
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Function: Program talkcolloquial.exe executed. Initiating.Way to fail at reading comprehension. You read what you wanted to read and selectively ignore the rest.
Notice how I said that the people involved in the mob were not children? Notice how I said that there was violence insinuated? Notice how I said that Elisha was a servant of God who was busy working miracles? Notice how I said that they were making a direct affront to God?
Yeah.
Did you notice that Elisha didn't actually kill anyone? Did you notice that it was not human hands that slew the crowd? Did you notice that Christians are commanded not to kill others and the only exceptions to this are in certain cases that we assume qualify (such as self-defense)?
You fail.
I Corinthians 2:6-16 yet again proves itself to be true.
Ummm... in the bit I posted wasn't God saying there were some groups, entire nations, that were to be completely wiped out? I think one has a hard time using self defence against all of them:
20:16 But of the cities of these people, which the LORD thy God doth give thee for an inheritance, thou shalt save alive nothing that breatheth:
20:17 But thou shalt utterly destroy them; namely, the Hittites, and the Amorites, the Canaanites, and the Perizzites, the Hivites, and the Jebusites; as the LORD thy God hath commanded thee:
Soldier: Hittite women and children cowering! Quickly, in the name of self defense slay them before they infect us with heathan beliefs!
Self Defense is uasually that, as in you are defending yourself against someone intent on, and capable of, doing you actual harm.
But it is ok if God personally kills people, because he has his God clause which makes even mass killings an act of goodness. As such I don't know why he didn't just strike down the Hittites, Amorites, Canaanites, Perizzites, Hivites and the Jebusites.
Originally posted by FeceMan
Function: Executing program talkcolloquial.exe...
Function: Program talkcolloquial.exe executed. Initiating.Way to fail at reading comprehension. You read what you wanted to read and selectively ignore the rest.
Notice how I said that the people involved in the mob were not children? Notice how I said that there was violence insinuated? Notice how I said that Elisha was a servant of God who was busy working miracles? Notice how I said that they were making a direct affront to God?
Yeah.
Did you notice that Elisha didn't actually kill anyone? Did you notice that it was not human hands that slew the crowd? Did you notice that Christians are commanded not to kill others and the only exceptions to this are in certain cases that we assume qualify (such as self-defense)?
You fail.
I Corinthians 2:6-16 yet again proves itself to be true.
Originally posted by SpearofDestiny
(2 Kings 2:23-24 NAB)From there Elisha went up to Bethel. While he was on his way, some small boys came out of the city and jeered at him. "Go up baldhead," they shouted, "go up baldhead!" The prophet turned and saw them, and he cursed them in the name of the Lord. Then two shebears came out of the woods and tore forty two of the children to pieces.
Originally posted by FeceMan
Corollary: The men were mocking and taunting a man who had done good work in the name of God.Conclusion: The men were indirectly making an affront to God, challenging His power.
Statement: Yes, they deserved it.
Originally posted by SpearofDestiny
Love thy Enemy
Originally posted by SpearofDestiny
Turn thy other Cheek
Originally posted by SpearofDestiny
Hypocrisy
Originally posted by Imperial_Samura
Ummm... in the bit I posted wasn't God saying there were some groups, entire nations, that were to be completely wiped out? I think one has a hard time using self defence against all of them:But it is ok if God personally kills people, because he has his God clause which makes even mass killings an act of goodness. As such I don't know why he didn't just strike down the Hittites, Amorites, Canaanites, Perizzites, Hivites and the Jebusites.
Imperative: Imperial_Samurai must not confuse "goodness" with "righteousness."
Originally posted by SpearofDestiny
Statement: Feceman is a hypocrite, as explained in my last post.
Personal Conclusion: Feceman doesn't know how to explain the "perfection" of his Faith when confronted with the contradictions presented in his text.
Statement: Feceman should not feel inclined to prove the validity or perfection of his Faith/Religion, or the Bible, but instead should admit he does not know everything, and that he chooses to beleive what he beleives for his own reasons, and he owes no explanation to myself or anyone else.
Second Conclusion: In turn, Feceman should understand why others do not follow his Faith, or beleive what he beleives, and that if he intends for others to follow his beleif, then he has to answer many questions with patience, not sarcasm.
Question: What is Feceman's intention ? To defend his choice of Faith, or to entice others to join his Faith ?
Originally posted by BlaxicanHydraWhere do you get your information that 2000 years ago people live until they were 100 😕 Considering the average life span for that time was around 25 to 30 years, people could live longer depending on their living conditions and diet but 18 would have been long considered a man by then.
Considering people lived to be 100 years ago, and you weren't considered a "man" until your thirties.. that's actually quite young. being 18 back then is like being 8 or 9 to us today.
Originally posted by lord xyz
Spearofdestiny, you are anti-christian, yet, your morals reflect the those of the Bible. Care to explain why?
1) I am not Anti-Christian. I do not wish for the eradication of Christianity. Like many other Christians, I beleive
2) I grew up Christian. So yes, many of my own morals do coincide with and are in harmony with Christianity.
Examples:
"Love Thy Neighor"
"Turn the Other Cheek"
"Treat others as thou wish to be Treated"
"Thou shalt not kill"
There's a many great stuff in the Bible. Wondorful things. What I want to do is enhance those wondors, and turn down the bad that the Bible promotes.
Originally posted by lord xyz
He believes what the Bible preaches. How can he be against it? Without it, he wouldn't be himself.
Originally posted by SpearofDestiny
1) I am not Anti-Christian. I do not wish for the eradication of Christianity. Like many other Christians, I beleive2) I grew up Christian. So yes, many of my own morals do coincide with and are in harmony with Christianity.
Examples:
"Love Thy Neighor"
"Turn the Other Cheek"
"Treat others as thou wish to be Treated"
"Thou shalt not kill"
There's a many great stuff in the Bible. Wondorful things. What I want to do is enhance those wondors, and turn down the bad that the Bible promotes.