Originally posted by Fiery Eyes
God created Adam & Eve, not Adam & Steve, The bible is a guide line to live our lives by. The bible does strongly talk against that, ninjaturtle said it very good. We as christians are to welcome them, just not condone their life style. Jesus will change them if they become a christian their desires wil change, they will seek for Gods ways, not their ways. 🙂
We must remenber that JC taught his followers to love and care for each other. And to show tolerance towards those that are different than ourselves. You must know that if you're a Christian you cannot judge others. For only JC himself will judge us ALL in the second coming.
I'm not much of a religious guy, but I know that is one of the crowning jewels of the Christian faith. To be tolerant and forgive others. I give JC credit for that.
Originally posted by WindDancer
We must remenber that JC taught his followers to love and care for each other. And to show tolerance towards those that are different than ourselves. You must know that if you're a Christian you cannot judge others. For only JC himself will judge us ALL in the second coming.I'm not much of a religious guy, but I know that is one of the crowning jewels of the Christian faith. To be tolerant and forgive others. I give JC credit for that.
Plz read my previous post hun. I would never ever treat someone that was like that different. I don't condone it tho. 🙂
"God created Adam and Eve not Adam and Steve"
for the purpose of reproduction.....
this is another one i have a hard time with . correct me if im wrong . did God create Adam and Eve only ? our did he create others as well....
i was always tuaght that we are all decendents of Adam and Eve , well isnt that like inbreeding ? and what of the other races , does the Bible speak of who the first Indian , Egyption , African , ect.......
Originally posted by BackFire
"God created Adam & Eve, not Adam & Steve"Congratulations, you're the 10,000th person to use that idiotic line as a defense of prejudice against gays, well done. Cliches never die, I guess.
Leviticus is the 3rd book in the bible and basically a book full of laws about what you can and cant do, what is immoral etc.
Leviticus 18:22 says Do not lie with a man as one lies with a woman; that is detestable. 😠
In the rest of this chapter having sex with someone of the same sex is categorised along with having sex with a close relateve and having sex with an animal. Does that mean that you think having sex with an animal or your sister is right too? 😘
If men were meant to be able to have sex with and get pregnant with each other, God would have given them a uterus. As it was, he didnt.
Originally posted by ninjaturtle
Maybe it is an idiotic line, but its still true. God didn't create both a man and a woman for Adam and say "here, take your pick of who you'd like to marry according to your sexual preference." 🙂Leviticus is the 3rd book in the bible and basically a book full of laws about what you can and cant do, what is immoral etc.
Leviticus 18:22 says Do not lie with a man as one lies with a woman; that is detestable. 😠
In the rest of this chapter having sex with someone of the same sex is categorised along with having sex with a close relateve and having sex with an animal. Does that mean that you think having sex with an animal or your sister is right too? 😘If men were meant to be able to have sex with and get pregnant with each other, God would have given them a uterus. As it was, he didnt.
Holy good god damn shit, this has got to be the most idiotic post I've read in a good long time....give me a moment to laugh at the idiocy presented in this post, especially this part -
"In the rest of this chapter having sex with someone of the same sex is categorised along with having sex with a close relateve and having sex with an animal. Does that mean that you think having sex with an animal or your sister is right too? 😘"
HAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!! Oh my God, are you serious? You think homosexuality is comparable to incest and bestiality....BAHAHAHHA!!! That is even stupider then the "adam and eve, not adam and steve" bullshit that idiots say. Holy shit, you deserve a KMC darwin award, that may very well be the stupidist idea ever mentioned on this website, you should be very proud!
Homosexuality is NOT like bestiality or incest. Bestiality is sex with a completely different species, who are unwilling participants. Incest is simply dangerous because of the birth defects that can come from it, that is why it should not be done. Otherwise, I'd have no problem with it. Homsexuality can cause NO birth defects, considering neither party can get pregnant.
Homosexuality is between two consenting adults who want to express their love for one another, the only difference betwen heterosexuality and homosexuality is that it's expressing love between someone of the same sex. Not with a dog. Not with your sister who may get pregnant and give birth to a retarded baby, there is no danger involved in it.
If men WERE NOT meant to be able to have sex with other men, then God would have made it physically impossible for it to be done.
Holy hell, after reading that statement from the Bible, I am so glad I have no association with such evil, idiotic and blatantly laughable notions that are presented and condoned in that piece of trash book. It's shit like that that pretty much cancels out anything good and wholesome that's preached in the book, and it's what gives the bible a bad name to non prejudice people such as myself.
Wait...one more time...
"In the rest of this chapter having sex with someone of the same sex is categorised along with having sex with a close relateve and having sex with an animal. Does that mean that you think having sex with an animal or your sister is right too? 😘 "
HAHAHAHAHAH!!! Oh man, I would have thought a person would have had to be retarded to have such stupid ideas...I guess I was wrong, they just have to be Christian.
If men WERE NOT meant to be able to have sex with other men, then God would have made it physically impossible for it to be done.
Well then, by that note it's obviously right to commit murder, because obviously if we weren't meant to sdo such things then God would have made us too stupid to invent guns, or made us all peace-seeking pacifistic puppets.
You say that homosexuality isnt dangerous like incest is? What about AIDS? Besides, I'm not saying its exactly the same as incest, but its clssified in the same area, as sexual immorality and sin.
First of all, murder is nothing like gay sex, not comparable in the least. Murder is harmful and is unavoidably possible, the only way it would not be possible is if everyone on earth was immortal, which would directly contradict everything God has done for humanity, because the basic human attribute that the bible relies on in order to get people to believe in their scare tactics is unavoidable death, and therefore, unavoidabe judgement from God. If God truley didn't want people have homosexual intercourse, he would have made it physically impossible to do so, despite the fact that no one gets hurt from it.
And, joy, you brought up AIDS, how delightfully predictable. When I made that post up there and I said "Gay sex isn't dangerous" I said to myself "you know what, I bet this person will bring up AIDS, the tried and true method of condemming homosexuality through ignorance." Congratulations, you can join the thousands of other people who bring that up as a defense to condem the homosexual community, despite it being completely irrelevant and ignorant in thinking this way.
Pop quiz buddy, AIDS was brought into humanity because a monkey bit a man, or because a man ate a bad piece of monkey meat. Had he been straight, it still would have had the same effect on society. He just happened to be gay so it is always associate with homosexuality by small minded individuals who can't grasp the fact that whether the man was heterosexual or homosexual, he still would have been bitten, and he still would have come back to the USA and had sex with his partners, and it would still be where it is today.
Knowledge, my anti-religion.
P.S. - I swear, I feel like I get dumber everytime I read your posts.
Well then just say "I think it's wrong and I don't aprove of it". You don't need to pussyfoot around it by quoting bible verses, and saying it's vaguely comparable to bestiality and incest. That IS judging homosexuals, and basically condemning it as well by comparing it to two things that are so looked down upon. While you're at it, why not compare it too pedaphilia and murder? Those comparisons would be no more ridiculous then your others.
Also, I'm not insulting you, merely the idiocy present in your posts. I think some homosexuals would be quite insulting by the comparison of their lifestyle to having sex with animals and family members. How very thoughtful of you. If anything, you're insulting yourself by having such silly ideas about homosexuality.
Also, one question I have for you, and christian people like you who think that homosexuality is wrong. If you did not believe in any religion that condemned homosexuality, would you still be against it?
No, not letting the bible do the thinking for me. If you go to school the school lays down rules for you to follow. The rules are for your own good and safety and they lay them out as a standard for students behave. In a similar way, God lays down the laws on how we ought to live our lives. They are for our own good and our own safety, even if we sometimes dont like them at the times. God doesnt do the thinking for us, the same way school doesnt think for you, but we try to follow God's laws like he asks us to.
I'm a christian, as most know, I am against being gay, would i treat them diff or feel diff if i wasn't a christian, No. I still don't like it, rather i'm a christian or not, I will not condemn someone for it, but i won't say, it's ok either. Before I gave my life to God, I still thought it was wrng, I went to school w/a gay guy, i've been around them, NO i did not treat them any different, I hung out w/them just like I did everyone else.
I agree w/Ninja on this topic, and just cuz you don't agree w/somene does not mean you judge them or treat them different. It simply means, we have different views ont he subject that others do.
WindDancer> But your philosophers are not experts – obviously. They did NOT prove the existence of God. If they did – humour me: Show me 😉
And there is a big difference between scientists investigating something which is THERE for all to see, gravity, planets and moons, and philosophers discussing the possible existence of a superhuman being. Which can be neither seen, heard, felt, tasted, touched or measured.
“I see that the Christian idea of God being a parent is stuck in your head. When I speak of God, I'm speaking of God as in a philosophical term. As I mention once before. God is a Philosophical being. There are ways to talk about God's existence. One is throught religion the other through philosophy.”
But you obviously believe in God, right? Then are we Gods children or are we NOT Gods children? God is God, right?
This God and we being his children topic really bothers you, or what? 😑
Saying I keep bringing this up is NOT answering my questions, nor participating the debate.
Tell me: Why is the opposite of free will being completely without will. How about free will under a caring Gods caring supervision?
”Not all creationist will take science seriously. Nor all evolutionist take religion seriously. Until they both drop their pride of trying to be right all the time weren't going nowhere. Maybe give each other a chance? Unless evolutionists are fundamentals too? Oye!”
No, you’re absolutely right. Not all scientists take religion seriously (fortunately they don’t have to anymore – the Inquisition is over). Why should they? Science is not about being RIGHT, it’s about facts.
“fundamentalism
noun {U}
the belief in old and traditional forms of religion, or the belief that what is written in a holy book, such as the Christian Bible, is completely true.”
So – Science can’t be fundamentalist. Sorry 😉
Oh, and you were the one calling Science a child. Science, which has given us medicine, airplanes, computers, men on the Moon and so on and so forth endlessly. Technology is based on science - yes, if you call science a child, then what is technology in your world-view? A baby????
BF> Behind you 100 % here. And here’s a beer for your lauging post… 😄
Jury> You didn’t answer my question. What about the people who never heard of God and couldn’t embrace any commandments?
What about all the people on the planet who existed before the invention of Judaism and Christianity? They’re in hell?
What about all the people living at the time of Judaisms invention in far-away lands, like Australia and North America, with no chance of EVER hearing the word of God. Are they in Hell, too?
1) “I'm really not sure, but if I weren't a Christian then I'm sure I would feel differently about it.”
2) ” As I suspected, letting the bible do your thinking for you. Gotta love impressinable minds, lord knows christianity does.”
1) No, not letting the bible do the thinking for me. If you go to school the school lays down rules for you to follow. The rules are for your own good and safety and they lay them out as a standard for students behave. In a similar way, God lays down the laws on how we ought to live our lives. They are for our own good and our own safety, even if we sometimes dont like them at the times.” “
Ninjaturtle> But by your own admission you’d think differently about homosexuals if you didn’t take the Bible literally! So BF is right – you’re letting a book do the thinking FOR you.
And the rules of a school MAKES sense! Hating homosexuals simply for what they are does NOT make sense. Get into your head that homosexuality is not contagious!
“God doesnt do the thinking for us, the same way school doesnt think for you, but we try to follow God's laws like he asks us to.”
But you may question the rules in a school. May you question the Bible (which is filled with contradictions and faulty translations!)?