Originally posted by Jury
Gay choose to be gay, no matter what they say. They have still the choices to stay in a right way as God wanted them to be. Why they came out that way? They choose it.
Do you choose to be straight? Can you actually control who you are attracted to? I know I can't, and gay people can't either.
The door swings both ways.
Holy shit, how criptic. Let me guess, God just came down and told you to say that, right? Because you're one of his "chosen people" who he talks too, along with a large amount of people in mental institutions across the globe.
Throwing out vague, cryptic nonsense is not the way to answer my question. I will ask it again - Do you choose who you are attracted to? Is it something you can control?
Originally posted by Jury
You can control it if you choose to. 🙂
Again, not answering the question. Can you, Jury, control who you are attracted to? If one day God came down to you and said - "hey, you know that book "the bible", yeah, it's a load of shit, anyone who isn't gay is going to hell, so you better get your shit together and start liking men" - Would you be able to do it?
And do not give a bunch of cryptic nonsense, pull your head out of your ass and answer the question straight forward, no more pussyfooting. I know it's what you Christians do best, but seriously, answer straight forward for a change, you may find people take your more seriously if you answer bluntly, it's the first step in learning how to argue and discuss things without causing unintentional laughter for sounding similar to Charlie Manson.
One more time - If one day God came down to you and said - "hey, you know that book "the bible", yeah, it's a load of shit, anyone who isn't gay is going to hell, so you better get your shit together and start liking men" - Would you be able to do it?
You asked: "Can you, Jury, control who you are attracted to?"
To whom? To the same man? Why would I get attracted to them? In what manner? If you're a gay and you can't control your feelings toward the same man, then it's your problem. You choose to become gay, and it's your fantacies of being attracted with the same sex... evil gets advantage to that... till he caught you in his trap. 🙂
That's why I said, you can control it if you choose to. Don't blame others for what you became... it's your choice.
One more time - If one day God came down to you and said - "hey, you know that book "the bible", yeah, it's a load of shit, anyone who isn't gay is going to hell, so you better get your shit together and start liking men" - Would you be able to do it?
You choose to become gay? HAHAHAHA!!! Oh man, the idiocy, the utter idiocy. Man, this thread is filled with some stupid posts. But then again, I shouldn't expect anything less from Christians.
So I'm expected to believe that gay people actually choose the way they feel? They decide "you know what, I feel like being gay from now on, so I will". You honestly think gays choose to be outcasts? They choose to be different, they actually can choose and decide who they're attracted too? I'm sorry, but you are wrong. Ask any homosexual, and they will tell you that they cannot help who they are attracted too. I know you're too ignorant and small minded to understand this, and you believe different, but you know what? Too bad, I think they'd know better then you, considering they're experiencing it, where as you're making blind judgments of these people because of somethign some ancient book said.
Also, who said anything about blame? I'm not trying to balme anyone. I am not prejiduce, I don't think homosexuality is something that can be blamed on anyone. You're the one trying to blame people for teh way they feel, for who they are attracted too. The only thing I'm blaming people for is idiocy and ignorance. Which is much worse and dangerous then homosexuality, which hurts no one.
You act as though my scenerio about God coming down and telling you to be gay is really wacky, when in fact, it's no dumber or more wacky then some of the ideas presented in the bible. Nor is it any more wacky and stupid then you claiming the voices in your head is caused by God talking to you, rather then insanity. Yeah, you and about 80% of patients in insane asylums.
Come on BackFire, knock it off. Just because you dont agree with what we're saying doesn't mean that you have to be so insulting. I dont agree with what you say, but that doesnt mean that I resort to insults. I still respect your opinions and what you have to say, despite holding the opposide opinions. You can think we're stupid all you like, but swearing at us and insulting us isnt going to achieve anything, so please keep your nasty words to yourself. I'm not here insulting you for not being Christian, so dont insult us for being Christian.
"May "homosexuals" bless you."
-Better them, than you and you're hateful, prejudice, ignorant beliefs. I'm sure you would have been right at home in the 1940's when prejudice was accepted for people who were different from the norm. The only difference is, the people back then were persecuted for the color of their skin, not who they were attracted too. Same thing going on now, simply bigotry.
"Come on BackFire, knock it off. Just because you dont agree with what we're saying doesn't mean that you have to be so insulting. I dont agree with what you say, but that doesnt mean that I resort to insults. I still respect your opinions and what you have to say, despite holding the opposide opinions."
-There's nothing to respect about prejudice ideals. Respect isn't given, it's earned, and it isnt earned by saying "all gays are bad and the result of evil and need to change, or else". Do you respect the beliefs of the KKK or Skinheads? Some beliefs aren't worthy of any respect, and these are beliefs that allow and condone prejudice, whether it be the beliefs of the KKK, or Christianity, prejudice is prejudice, just pussying footing around your opinions by relying on the bible to do your dirty work for you is the only difference between the two. At least the KKK were open in their prejudice beliefs, Christians are two faced about it - "Oh, we love and respect everyone, but gays need to change the way they are because they don't fit into our way of life. If they don't, they're going to go to hell, but we still love them". What a crock of shit. You don't realize that by advocating beliefs that condone prejudice and hate you are not loving and caring for these people, if you were, you would not expect nor want them to change their ways. That's not love, that's not caring, that's not respecting them. That's disguised hate. You and people like the KKK and skinheads are one. You both don't approve of something that other people simply can't change.
Also, feel free to attempt to insult me, it would be interesting to see what you can say to the simple logic I'm providing. I'm sure the time honored "you just don't get it, you're going to hell". Or "I'll pray for you" would both be expected. As if I'd ever want any prayers from people like you. That would be like a Nazi telling me I'm a bad person because I don't think jews should be exterminated.
"Very predictable.
As Jesus said, "Many people will persecute you because of me" ...
and He was right."
-Hmm...sounds to me that you're persecuting and disaproving other people because of him and his beliefs. You're allowing what he supposedly said guide you're opinion. Also, stupidity is just as good a reason as any to persecute. At least it's based on something that can be seen and changed.
And finally, for someone who claims everyone elses statements are "predictable" you may want to take a look in the mirror. As if you're statements can't be predicted by simply looking at the bible and seeing what it has to say on certain topics. Because I know you will automatically agree with them. If the bible said "Kill all who are different and put them in concentration camps to be slaughtered and tortured", you'd buy it and agree with it, just because the bible said so. You call people predictable for actually having THEIR OWN opinion on something that doesn't come straight from a verse of a book, as opposed to your who takes every argument straight from the bible in an attempt to avoid thinking for yourself.