Anakin's Promises

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Anakin's Promises

Will Anakin fulfil his promises in Episode III?

Anakin makes several promises in the first two Episodes. One of them is that he will return to Tatooine to free his mom(but she is now dead) but he also dreams of becoming a Jedi and freeing the slaves on Tatooine(TPM). Another one, which is more of a vow, is where Anakin says he will become so powerful he can even bring someone back from the dead, or prevent them from dying(AOTC). The question is will we see him do any of these things in Episode III, or will those visions be more failures?
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well Im thinking the first 2 are a moot point there Ken, but I'd LOVE to see the 3rd fullfilled. 🙂

I've analyzed this and I think he accomplishes them to some degree. First he says he'll come back and free his mom, which he does, he frees her from the Tusken Raiders. He says he dreamed of being a Jedi, and he's an official Jedi Knight by the time of Episode III, so that's done. He says he'll "free all the slaves", and if you think about it, when he kills Palpatine in ROTJ he frees slaves all across the galaxy, or at least knocks out the first nail to break down the structure. Then he says he'll learn to STOP people from dieing, not to bring them back from the dead. He in fact stops himself from dieing when he falls in the pit, correct? He also stops Luke from dieing, and in doing so, he partially fulfills the line "I wasn't strong enough to save you Mom, but I promise, I won't fail you again." Eh? Lol

Good points NoFate 😊

Hmm...interesting. I'd say the first two are reasonable. Not so sure about the third but it would be cool as well.

Dieing=Dying 😛
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if i remember correctly his line in AOTC is 'ill even learn to stop people from dying'.
if you think about it (maybe too deeply) by giving him the vader suit sideous does actually stop anakin from dying, so technically after sideous explains the ins and outs of the suit then anakin will have learnt how to stop people from dying.

ok so i missed 'nofate007' 's post!

my mistake lol 'hangs head in shame'

yeah but in ep2 he makes it sound like he is a god and that whats the emperior teaches him to use force choke to become so I think he does fill all promises for now may force be with you.

"i will even learn to stop people from dying" could translate into his cyborg bionics.

Force Choke isn't a godlike ability. Luke's an amateur and he uses it on the guards in Jabba's palace. All the Force attacks are normal things that anyone can use, with the only exception being Palpatine's ability to cloud the light side in the prequels.

I remember reading a synopsis somewhere [sorry I can't quite remember where...] where Padme is injured and Anakin is desperate to save her. Palpatine lures him to the darkside with the inclination that only when he has embraced his dark powers can he save her life. Padme pleads with Anakin not to but he is stricken with guilt and fear for her life. He falls to the power of the darkside and Palpatine assists him in saving Padme.

I just thought that was interesting considering what's being discussed.

Something that's been stirring in my thoughts a while resurfaced with something nofate said about "Anakin freeing slaves when he threw Palpatine in the pit". When people talk on the subject of "bringing balance to the force", most views I've heard are that the balance was restored when the Jedi were eliminated down to the last two, Yoda and Obi-Wan, because the imbalance was due to the numbers of the Jedi.
But come to think of it, didn't Palpatine control the Jedi? Because, he had clouded the minds of the entire counsel and they were all playing right into his hand, and were really no different than pawns. It seems to me that the imbalance would tip to the dark side because he controlled the Jedi and all that power, which would later multiply when the Jedi were destroyed. So I could see the fulfilment of the "chosen one prophecy" take place when Vader kills Palpatine.... 📖

Does anyone think that the stop people from dying has anything to do with the force ghosts! The first time he goes bonkers i.e tusken village is the first time we hear a dead jedi qui-gon, it makes me wonder that as he goes more towards the dark side it somehow brings about this force ghost thing??Is he inadvertantly stopping people from dying??? 😕

The "Preventing people from dying" one is realised in ROTJ when he prevents Luke from being killed by Palpatine.

Originally posted by Darth_Duffy
if i remember correctly his line in AOTC is 'ill even learn to stop people from dying'.
if you think about it (maybe too deeply) by giving him the vader suit sideous does actually stop anakin from dying, so technically after sideous explains the ins and outs of the suit then anakin will have learnt how to stop people from dying.

actually, the exact line is "I'll even learn people to stop from dying" 😉

and imo, the freeing of slaves... no
free his mom... no, but he technically did when he took her off from the wood-thing she was hanging on in the Tusken Camp

but the preventing people from dying? yes!
He IS the Chosen One, you must see this! OB1 didn't die and Yoda didn't die, they became a ghost, so they didn't really die, so that's what he does

he wont free the slaves

& Its palpatine who puts Anankin in the suit and 'stops him from dying'

unless anakin creates the suit b4 the duel(which is unlikely)

Originally posted by NoFate007
Force Choke isn't a godlike ability. Luke's an amateur and he uses it on the guards in Jabba's palace. All the Force attacks are normal things that anyone can use, with the only exception being Palpatine's ability to cloud the light side in the prequels.

i believe that in the novel it is explained that luke actually puts the guards to sleep.

but in the movies it's a weak attempt of grip/choke, so that's the way to go by

but that's not what to go by.
it's just speculation. unless i am missing some official info that is.
granted, it does look like a choke, but to accept that is also to accept
that luke is already falling to the darkside at the beginning of ep6, so why did
yoda not notice this in his meditations?