Anakin's Promises

They sometimes call themselves Jedi Knights, but in the end, they are simply "warrior monks." They don't use unnecessary offensive moves, and they figh according to extremely strict rules of engagement. It is obvious that the Jedi would never use force lightning. Only in stupid EU and video games would that happen.

You can exercise restraint, and at the same time not be a sissy. And in the end, there is just no need for them to use force lightning. Can you actually imagine Obi-Wan being cornered by General Grievous, and then using force lightning to get the upper hand? It doesn't even pass the laugh test.

look, the whole "no evidence" thing works either way.

perhaps i am mistaken, but perhaps the cons to my arguement are mistaken as well. your arguement is valid as well, but you in no way prove my opinion wrong.

there is no point in debating this further, since it is purely opinion.

and no, i am not tainted by "eu games" just by the films.
i see that sith are the only ones using lightning, so i speculate.

since its all opinion, i fail to see the reason for such a heated debate,
i can see now that its just pointless.

You're not talking to me, right, even though I also mentioned EU games; 'cause I'm on your side. 🙁

darth, im making a general statement, that was in no way aimed at you

i can just forsee this debate running around in circles till episode 3 comes out.
and i would also be so bold as to predict that the debate could run long after.

something tells me this particular issue will never be proven

Okay, I'm glad. 😄

I don't understand where the Force Lightning suddenly comes from. That was all beside the point. And it may be, as Ush said about a million times, that the Jedi don't know how to do it. They may be familiar with it, but perhaps not ABLE to do it. Who knows.... but it has nothing to do with the peacekeeping attitude of the Jedi.

Jedi are warrior monks, its about time someone said that! Excellent, Darth Surgent, show them the true path....

And?

Well, monks aren't really aggressive from what I've seen. That's where the conflict in the Jedi concept comes from: passive and aggressive. Plus calling them monks takes them down a peg.

What about the warrior bit then. There's no militant word I know that sounds so aggressive.

it's weird, i was just about to post something eerily similar in another thread (samurai monks, i was thinking)....

i said a few pages back, this is like a political debate, no one's gonna change their mind so you know there's no point, but you just can't help going back to it again and again....

force lightning is a form of torture, the jedi are supposed to be like what sherrifs or cops would be in a perfect world....they're not supposed to torture people....

True. Is there even such a thing as a warrior monk? It does sound contradictory....
But that's Lucas' concept: knights with a spiritual aspect. That's they dress the wat they do.

It exists. To me it says something about the nature (peaceful attitude, keepers of what is righteous) of these people but also something about the fervour for the cause: ready to defend what is right at any cost, even if it means fighting to the death.

a cop's supposed to act when the situation calls for it....to keep the peace....if you think any of this makes them "pussies", you might just have watched too much WWF...."brother"..... 😉

i disagree guiro

"we are keepers of the peace, not soldiers"

they resolve disputes on a diplomatic level.
they're not cops.

I am a jedi and you will respect my authoritor 😮‍💨

upholding the law can get messy....but you get by....one day at a time. 😄

No, no. Don't drag pro-wrestling into this, please. Jedi use their sabers when there isn't an alternative, but their default setting is Peaceful Resolution. We just don't see a whole lot of it because lots of talking doesn't make for a good action movie.

Ok, topic is obviously all done. If you want to talk about the nature of a Jedi, open a thread for it.

Closing.