Joining the Force

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Originally posted by Ushgarak
Err... I really don't understand this 'purged by fire' obession of yours, queeq... seems quite eccentric.

And the dead Jedi in the Arena do not disappear; there has been no going back on word yet.

And what's wrong with eccentric?

could palpatine of told him about this trick, the only reason i ask is becouse after ep3 kenobi, luke, and palpatine are the only ones that know the ways of the jedi that vader comes in contact with,(not counting the purge) the only one that could give him the answer would be palpatine becouse i'm sure he knows the jedi's beliefs the same as he knows the siths, the same as the jedi knowing the siths beliefs, i think palpatine might have told vader about joining the force but also told vader it was impossible for him to do it since he gave himself to the darkside the only one that could bring him to his true self would of course be luke,and thats why the son of skywalker must not become a jedi

why on earth would he know?

would it be fair to say that since the jedi know the siths ways and beliefs, that the sith would know the jedis, i mean that has to be the reason they are enemies,becouse of each others beliefs,right?

Could it also be true that the only way to join the force is to be completely committed to it? I mean some of the Jedi who do not disappear after there death could be force strong but not force POWERFUL.

No. The Sith don't know everything of the Jedi and vice versa. They fought because some jedi believed the force should be used for control, others believed it should defend and help. So they fought. That's the extent of it. And it was so long ago I doubt the Jedi even know their own customs from that far back.

well wouldnt the archives show there customs,i'm sure they do, and palpatine knows his enemies, he's highly intellegent and knows more than what he shows,i'm sure he knows a great deal of the jedis beliefs especially one as imparative as joining the force

if it were in the archives, everyone could do it.

uhhhh....well you said that the jedi dont even know there customs from that far back,but i'm sure there customs are documented in the archives!!!

are you? you're sure? how are you sure?

becouse the purpose of the archives are to offer knowledge of the jedis customs, but dam i bet it doesnt explain that mindboggleing force ghost thing......

exactly. i know you're being sarcastic but that's how it is. you wouldn't want sensitive material like that able to be hacked by somebody. there are probably several secrets that are orally passed down and only a few people know, like in martial arts. There are several moves and styles that only a select few are taught because they don't want just anyone having the knowledge. So yes, they would leave that out, amongst other things I'll bet. (notice I didn't say "i'm sure" of something it is impossible to be sure about).

The Jedi archives would not show the ability to join the force. It aparently is a new find. It hasn't made it to the archives yet.

correct. some are forgetting is that lucas states that it's in ep3 that the jedi learn about keeping their identity after death...probably from quigon. so it would not be in the archives

yeah i know the joining the force thing wouldnt be in the archives, but i think it was a debate on how anakin found out about the joining the force and me being idealistic, and said mabey palpatine found out and people just......FREAKED OUT MAN......i dont know,i've had good ideas and some bad ones,but people gotta stop bugging,i mean this stuff is suppose to be fun right?

well if you know its not in the archives, why are you for him gettin the info from the archives? I know its all fun here, but a put a little more thought into it, and I'm not saying that to be mean. It just seems weird that if you know its not in the archives, that you'd still suggest thats where Ani learned it. You know that's not the case, why put yourself on the line?

A message from beyond is the best way to go, if Neeson's in the movie.
Otherwise, I suspect Yoda's going to have a sudden revelation and share it with others.

Hey, what if Mace reappears as a ghost to Yoda to warn him of impending doom? I'm sure Yoda talked to him later on once he realized whose voice he'd heard and what it meant.

GL was quite specific: OB1 and Yoda find out about joining the Force. NO one else before them knows, Vader doesn't know in ANH, NOBODY knows... only OB1 and Yoda and perhaps maybe possibly Qui-Gon...

I feel that it will be the will of the force not the will of the Jedi who decides on who joins the force and who doesn't.