I don't think the force is that sentient. You make it sound like some sort of god. The force is supposed to be like the eastern concept of chi. It just is. If the Force could calculate to help the Jedi defeat the Sith like that, I'm sure it could just strip the Sith of power. But it doesn't, because its supposed to be a naturally occuring thing which, like nature, is neutral.
Originally posted by mephistodesigns
well if you know its not in the archives, why are you for him gettin the info from the archives? I know its all fun here, but a put a little more thought into it, and I'm not saying that to be mean. It just seems weird that if you know its not in the archives, that you'd still suggest thats where Ani learned it. You know that's not the case, why put yourself on the line?
i never said a word about them getting anything from the archives. just because some dont agree with you, it doesnt mean they share a brain. as for ME, i speak based on what lucas has said, not my own opinions.
Originally posted by PVSno he was talking to me,but the convo got screwed up somehow,he said something on the lines of the jedi forgetting there customs,and i said the jedi wouldnt forget becouse its documented and he got all crazy thinking i was referring to the joining the force would be in the archives, i told him he misunderstood me but sh*t gets screwed up here sometimes!!!!!! 🙂
i never said a word about them getting anything from the archives. just because some dont agree with you, it doesnt mean they share a brain. as for ME, i speak based on what lucas has said, not my own opinions.
Originally posted by mephistodesignsthis is when i said the customs would be documented so the jedi would know how far back there existence went
No. The Sith don't know everything of the Jedi and vice versa. They fought because some jedi believed the force should be used for control, others believed it should defend and help. So they fought. That's the extent of it. And it was so long ago I doubt the Jedi even know their own customs from that far back.
Originally posted by PVS
i never said a word about them getting anything from the archives. just because some dont agree with you, it doesnt mean they share a brain. as for ME, i speak based on what lucas has said, not my own opinions.
that's good, cuz I wasn't talking about you ya meglomaniac!! 😉
I was talkn' bout captainmidnight because he said maybe Ani learned it from the archives, then he said he knew that wasn't the case he was just suggesting an alternative and I was wondering why he'd say that's where Ani learned it, when capt. knew it wasn't the case. I know you didn't say anything like that Peeves, i usually agree with ya!
Originally posted by queeq
Don't make more out of the Force than it is, please. The vaguer, the better.
exactly, that's why i'm saying its not "sentient" in the sense that its sitting there analyzing things. Its a force of nature, part of the universe. A neutral thing that can be used for good or bad, like a hammer but far more complicated. It just simply is. It is what it is and thats all that it is.
Originally posted by captainmidnight
no he was talking to me,but the convo got screwed up somehow,he said something on the lines of the jedi forgetting there customs,and i said the jedi wouldnt forget becouse its documented and he got all crazy thinking i was referring to the joining the force would be in the archives, i told him he misunderstood me but sh*t gets screwed up here sometimes!!!!!! 🙂
I got crazy? First you said maybe Ani learned it from the archives, I pointed out why that wouldn't be (aside from Lucas saying so) and you said you knew that, but you said it anyway. That's why you confused me, you went back on something you said earlier. Its hard to keep track when you switch sides mid discussion.
and if so much as one a ya uses the term flip flopper I'll slap the meat from yer bones! 😂
The Living Force is only one part of the Force; as GL says, the 'greater' part of the Force is the Cosmic one, and that is the one to do with the future, and destiny, and almost certainly the ghost thing.
The Living Force is the part that allows them to sense (and influence) minds, and be so instinctive, and so forth.
Cosmic Force??? Another one? I wonder what the point is of all these different Forces (well, different... you know what I mean). It is remiscnent of the Holy Trinity from the Bible actually. LIving Force: Jesus, Unifying Force: Holy Spirit and Cosmic Force: God the Father.
However, SW is not a religious document. If we don't understand it from the films and these different sides to the Force play no part in the story, why all this mumbo jumbo from GL about all this? Confusing...
there aren't different forces. The living force concept refers to pay attention to what its telling you now, about what you're doing now. You can tap into the force to see the future, the past, other places. The living force means what's happening now. It's not literally "living" or the only force active, its just refered to as living to show that it is concerning what is going on right now.
Originally posted by queeqThere are a lot of side stroies that we have not heard yet. LFL has gone to great lengths to put a back story on just about everything in the SW Galaxy. This could just be part of the greater picture in GL's mind. We may never know for sure.
Cosmic Force??? Another one? I wonder what the point is of all these different Forces (well, different... you know what I mean). It is remiscnent of the Holy Trinity from the Bible actually. LIving Force: Jesus, Unifying Force: Holy Spirit and Cosmic Force: God the Father.However, SW is not a religious document. If we don't understand it from the films and these different sides to the Force play no part in the story, why all this mumbo jumbo from GL about all this? Confusing...