Homosexuality: Chosen or Genetic?

Started by Eöl Moriedhel324 pages
Originally posted by Turbo-Cajun
I think you've missed out on a couple of important pages of debate Eol Moriedhel... Its not that simple. You dont choose what attracts you... if you did like the idea of another man's.... in you... on you...whatever, you dont choose that. If you "chose" to be straight, but were still loving the thought of wieners you would be what is called a closet homosexual. You may choose to live a gay life style, but you dont get to choose what sex you are attracted to. Its fairly complex... if it were simply just choosing to be gay we probably know that it was by choice by now. But not one gay person in this thread has said that they chose to be gay, if anything they lean towards genetics...

Whoa.....
Just to set the records straight, (a pun), I am NOT a closet Homosexual. Penis's scare the BLOODY hell out of me! 😉

Originally posted by Eöl Moriedhel
Whoa.....
Just to set the records straight, (a pun), I am NOT a closet Homosexual. Penis's scare the BLOODY hell out of me! 😉

LOL...you aren't scared of yours are you? Going to the bathroom must be difficult...

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Originally posted by Storm
Same here but it just happens to be this way. I didn' t decide it all of a sudden one day.

*instant valley-girl mode*

Like, No. Way. jawdrop

Do I smell sarcasm?

hehe

Originally posted by Storm
Do I smell sarcasm?

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No!! Sorry if it came across that way. I just, I think you've mentioned it before but I guess I never really took enough notice. All wrapped up in myself you see 😮 😮

Totally 😛

Originally posted by Fiery Eyes
I thk you guys are all nuts!!!! I am j/k Capt: YOU wasn't very nice!!! I do thk being homosexual is wrong, NO it's not wrong or a sin for me to say that contrary to what some say in here, I would be a hypocrite to myself and to God, if I just shyd around the conversation (tippied toed), Just cuz I thk it's wrong and I would vote against it any day of the week, DOES not mean I would ever treat them different, cuz i haven't!! I would be friends w/them just like I would anyone else.

No no, go ahead and speak your mind. It just means you are sinning.

Does it not say, in the very book you quoted(The Bible) that judging others is wrong!? This literally means that by doing something the Bible says is wrong, you are sinning. This is because you are Christian, and follow the Bible.

Where is your logic of saying that this is not true coming from?

Originally posted by Eöl Moriedhel
Whoa.....
Just to set the records straight, (a pun), I am NOT a closet Homosexual. Penis's scare the BLOODY hell out of me! 😉

I didnt say you were, and I wasnt trying to imply it either. But jeez you got defensive about that really fast... 😂

as the saying goes, if the shoe fits... otherwise dont worry about it.

I wasnt trying to say anything about you. But, you understand what i was trying to say right?

Yea, I do. 😛

LOL...you aren't scared of yours are you? Going to the bathroom must be difficult...

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Re: So what yu are saying is this.

Originally posted by Jackie Malfoy
If you like a girl you like the a girl and if you are a boy you like a girl that seens normal to me and it is your choice if you like someone else or not.
It is nothering to do with actly being born gay it is your choice your own thoughts.I don't see why you think people are born gay it is impossible it is a choice not gentic.
You guys had not said one thing on how someone can be born gay.I mean come on does it make sence no.It is just a excuse that gay people make so they look like they can't help it.
Franky they can.Just wanted to point tht out to you,jm

I didn't say I think its genetic. I said it's not a choice. It doesn't really have to be one or the other.. it's not really an A or B question. You can choose whether or not you want to act on your homosexuality, but you can't choose whether you are actually gay or not. Do you seriously think that if you thought about it hard enough you could make yourself gay by choice?

Originally posted by Afro Cheese
I didn't say I think its genetic. I said it's not a choice. It doesn't really have to be one or the other.. it's not really an A or B question. You can choose whether or not you want to act on your homosexuality, but you can't choose whether you are actually gay or not. Do you seriously think that if you thought about it hard enough you could make yourself gay by choice?

yeah i agree. I dont think u can help who you are attracted to, but i think you can choose whether or not to act on those feelings.

There Have been studies done on Homosexuals that show that sometimes they might have a hormone of the opposite sex in themselves so that could influence their sexual feelings so I think that it could be a choice for thjse who are wanting to rebel against society or who want to be extremely outgoing bout it could also be instinct for those with a genetic disorder

Homosexuality is natural in the sense that it extensively occurs in nature. Homosexuality has been documented in over 190 species and can be observed in nearly all sexually reproducing organisms, the exception being bacteria.

Studies of human sexuality indicate that sexual orientation is fixed and unchangeable, and current research suggests that sexual orientation is in place before birth and is caused by gentic and biological factors.

There is currently no scientific evidence that sexual orientation is learned or can be changed.

Consider for a moment that almost all gay men and lesbians have grown up in a heterosexual world, with very little exposure to homosexuality. The overwhelming majority of gay men and lesbians were raised by heterosexual parents, educated by heterosexual teachers, and socialized with heterosexual siblings and friends. They were surrounded by heterosexism in magazines, books, movies and on television, yet they grew up to be gay.

Furthermore, homosexuality can not be defined simply by behavior. Sexual orientation is distinguished by an enduring emotional, romantic, sexual, spiritual, and affectional attraction to individuals of a particular sex. Sexual orientation is different from sexual behavior because it refers to feelings and self-concept.

Suggesting that homosexuals should choose not to act on their homosexuality is as preposterous as suggesting that migratory birds should choose not to fly south for the winter. Imagine for a moment, denying yourself the desire to share your life and love with another person. Does that sound reasonable to you?

Homosexuality is natural in the sense that it extensively occurs in nature. Homosexuality has been documented in over 190 species and can be observed in nearly all sexually reproducing organisms, the exception being bacteria
well since our task is to reproduce homosexuality cant be natural.
I dont think it is chosen even though you find wannabes here too cause it is "inn" to be gay. When it comes to us humans well you cant help who you fall in love with, if that be some of the same gender thats just the way it is. I bet it aint easy being gay at least not at the "start". Meaning from when one let people know of his/her sexual predilection.
I think they are a brave bunch, and at least they get to know who their real friends are

Originally posted by finti
well since our task is to reproduce homosexuality cant be natural.

nat·u·ral adj. Present in or faithfully representing nature or life.

Originally posted by Adam_PoE
[b]nat·u·ral adj. Present in or faithfully representing nature or life. [/B]

Nicely done 🙄

Syren> “The flaws in her thought process, in YOUR opinion. That's where I get annoyed, no-one seems to be able to accept that although she comes across as bigoted, that's only in their opinion.”

Ok, let’s look at what a bigot is, shall we 😄

bigot
noun {C} DISAPPROVING
a person who has strong, unreasonable beliefs and who thinks that anyone who does not have the same beliefs is wrong:
- a religious bigot
- He was known to be a loud-mouthed, opinionated bigot.
bigoted
adjective DISAPPROVING
- She's so bigoted that she refuses to accept anyone who doesn't think like her.
bigotry
noun {U} DISAPPROVING
- religious/racial bigotry

From freesearch http://www.freesearch.co.uk/dictionary

Now, it’s in the UNREASONABLE BELIEF and the “anyone who does not have the same belief is wrong”, that we differ.
Claiming that there is nothing wrong with homosexuality as it harms no one and threatens no one is neither unreasonable nor a belief.

So not EVERYTHING we can say here is an opinion. Some of it is FACTS. Races does not genetically determine whether you’re a good or bad person, gender does not either.

FE> For the gigazillionth time: How do you KNOW that the passages in the Bible that says homosexuality is wrong should be taken literally? You have yourself countless times said that and that passage is NOT to be taken literally. So why the ones you state??

Matthew 19:
19:29
And every one that hath forsaken houses, or brethren, or sisters, or father, or mother, or wife, or children, or lands, for my name's sake, shall receive an hundredfold, and shall inherit everlasting life.
So, do you forsake your brothers and sister, your parents, husband and children?

“saying i'm a hypocrite cuz i state my opinions about homesexuallity is just your way to try to get me to hushhhh.”
😆 Okay, either you’re ignorant or you simply do not READ what I write. I’ll do so again: You’re a hypocrite because you judge a group of people who do you NO harm, countrary to what your lord Jesus has said about judging others.

Omega: Have you ever read books that had metaphores in them???? Can YOU tell the diff in real and metaphores???hmmmm

Originally posted by The Omega
You’re a hypocrite because you judge a group of people who do you NO harm, countrary to what your lord Jesus has said about judging others.

😕 I dont think FE is being hypocritical. She just doesnt agree with homosexual acts but that doesnt mean she's judging the people who commit them.