Re: Re: Re: Marvel Studios Strikes Back
Originally posted by K3VIL
Who cares? Let me think? those who know the comic book? A norse god, being black, instead of having blond or dark hair, and white skin, is like an olympian god being chinese. Oh yeah, Hogus was asian too, so all fits in i guess
Originally, I was pretty worried when it came to the movie, especially with the unknown casting choices for the two major roles (Thor and Loki) and how the studio would bring something as fantastical as Asgardians to the big screen. As a huge Thor fan, I’d have no problem accepting anything but the general audience is something I always took into account because as well as hoping it’d be a good movie, I wanted it to be successful as well, earning enough to support as many sequels as possible.
The movie didn’t disappoint imo. My doubts about the casting were quickly cast aside once I saw Chris Hemsowrth, and Tom Hiddleston in action. They not only looked the part but they both stole the show, particularly Hiddleston.
Hemsworth was brave, arrogant, and a bit of a brute in the beginning but he always had this sense of nobility. It was simply the way he carried himself; he makes a great transition throughout the film as well which was extremely important. His acting was top notch, and his delivery of some lines deserves applause. Some of them could have easily been shitty and he gave them some serious emotion. Hiddleston played a surprisingly amazing Loki, he was the best super villain I’ve watched next to Ledger’s joker. You can honestly never tell where his true intentions lie and his so intense and tragic in some scenes I can feel his grief. And then moments later he’s completely ominous. It’s all this big game but any wrong doing stem from good intentions.
I honestly cannot begin to imagine how we could get a better Thor and Loki.
Anthony Hopkins was great as Odin obviously; Idris Elba gave a nice performance as Heimdall and the Warrior’s Three along with Lady Sif were extremely fun. I’d have liked for those four to have received more screen time. Kat Dennings did not overdue the humor and overall the comedy was well timed imo. It was something I was worried about.
There was no real weak link in the acting except with Natalie Portman. There wasn’t a very real chemistry and as a result, the climax did not hit as hard as it should have. She wasn’t bad, but in comparison to some of the performances here, she stood out. The believability of their relationship should critical for the movie. As a result, Thor’s sacrifice doesn’t have the impact it should have.
It also brings me to the problem of Thor spending not enough time on Earth. It works, but it would have been more believable if he had an extended stay.
In regards to bringing Asgard to life, they strongly hinted that they weren’t Gods, so much as highly advanced and long lived beings. I’d hate this revelation in the comics as one of the draws of Thor to me is that his extraordinary in a world of extraordinary but it works in the movie. There’s a blend of magic and technology where we don’t know where one ends, and the other begins.
In terms of action, this movie has the best comic book fighting sequence ever imho. The only flaw in the battles, which hopefully doesn’t become a trend with Marvel, is that the further along we go, the less impressive the fights are. At least in scale.The Destroyer battle with an extra even 5 or 10 minutes would have been awesome. Thor takes care of it a bit too easy. He might have been a bit too powerful as with the hammer in hand, he basically destroys anyone who looks at him funny.
The final battle doesn’t stand out in regards to the smaller scale as the Destroyer due to the emotional impact between Loki and Thor. The major point was that it wasn’t about the powers, but the personality as I understood. As shown, even after it all, Thor was still prepared to offer the hand of forgiveness to Loki. I liked that, too many superheroes are "dark" currently. They shouldn't be so liberal with killing as they are, and this is coming from a Thor fan.
In attempting to be objective, I might be doing too much nitpicking, lol. This movie has more pros than cons without a doubt.
The action is solid but the story and relationship between the characters is what keeps you watching. Thor’s a very solid super hero flick and one of the most faithful adaption’s I’ve seen.
An 8.5 out of 10 for me. Definitely on par with Iron Man 2 if not superior.
Hope that wasn't too long. And comic fans will enjoy some of the little tidbits thrown in that only "we" would understand.
Bad news. All movies show a increase from Friday to Saturday in sales, Thor show a -8.5% loss on Saturday. I've never seen it yet but it can't be that bad.
Originally posted by Rage.Of.OlympusNo its wasn't bad. Wasn't great by any stretch either.
You're a glass half empty kind of guy aren't you?The movie is going to make north of 66 million in it's opening weekend. It's no Iron Man 2 or Spider-Man but it's still successful.
The movie isn't bad by any stretch.
Originally posted by juggernaut74
Bad news. All movies show a increase from Friday to Saturday in sales, Thor show a -8.5% loss on Saturday. I've never seen it yet but it can't be that bad.
actually very good news.. Thor made $ 66 million here in the US and has a total of $ 242 million worldwide, not bad for a film that had to change directors as well as have a no name, but now chris hemsworth will become a name..
http://www.deadline.com/2011/05/thor-divines-3-25-million-in-midnight-b-o/
Originally posted by Kazenji
People still keep bringing it upbut i still fail to see how the second Iron Man movie was weak
each to their own i suppose.
It was just very uninspiring. Lame acting, bad direction, and the comedy didn't work, either. I was actually pumped up, because the first IM was pretty damn awesome. Oh, and Justin T. can't write, IMO. He's not even a good actor, IMO.
Originally posted by roughrider
Caught the first midnight show of it last night, just before it opened today. Definitely an 8.5 out of 10; maybe I will revise it upwards after a second viewing, as it grows on me and I can spot more easter eggs.
Saw it again Saturday night, in 2D this time. My rating rises from an 8.5 to a 9. 😄
I find it interesting how one person can view acting as superb, and another see's it as crap.
Anyway, saw it last night, and thought the 1st hour and 15 minutes was incredible. On par, if not better than IM and TDK. Everything shot in Asgard looked and felt amazing. Loved Thor, Loki, Heimdal (voice was so cool), Frost Giants, Warriors Three, Sif, and of course, Odin. Battle scene in Jotunheim was spectacular. Jane Foster, and other physicist were good as well. The scenes at the Hospital, Diner, and SHIELD quarters were great with a nice blend of humor.
Unfortunately, the next half hour or so was ok, but nowhere near as good. It just felt a little rushed. I too thought the scene with the Destroyer was handled a bit too easily. Even one more minute of solid top tier power displays from both of them would've taken care of that issue. A god blast would've been nice. The battle with Loki was also underwhelming.
I too agree with Roughrider that Thor changed his mind a bit too quickly. If they would've extended his time on earth to even a month or so, it would've made his decision more meaningful. That can be done very easily in Hollywood with some quick montages and flash panels.
Overall, I liked it very much. I was really entranced the first 1 hr 15 min. I'd give it a 8/10.
Originally posted by nimbus006I too agree with Roughrider that Thor changed his mind a bit too quickly.
I never said that. I think his time on Earth was well handled, because nothing about Thor was really changing until he finally got his hammer and was shocked to find he couldn't lift it. That sobered him a lot, as he wasn't treating his exile very seriously before that; couple that with the belief that he thought it was permanent (because of Loki's lies), it finally got him looking inward. This was where the contrast of small town life in New Mexico was working against the great grandeur of life in Asgard; Thor had time to just sit and think quietly about things. He was ready to accept his situation by the time Sif and the Warriors Three arrived, then realized he needed to do even more by the time the Destroyer arrived. I think his change was handled well in the time given.
Besides, can we really say how long it was? Mjolnir could have been sitting in that crater for weeks until SHIELD showed up, and word spread back to the town. It's like trying to guess how long Luke was on Dagobah in The Empire Strikes Back.
Originally posted by roughrider
I never said that. I think his time on Earth was well handled, because nothing about Thor was really changing until he finally got his hammer and was shocked to find he couldn't lift it. That sobered him a lot, as he wasn't treating his exile very seriously before that; couple that with the belief that he thought it was permanent (because of Loki's lies), it finally got him looking inward. This was where the contrast of small town life in New Mexico was working against the great grandeur of life in Asgard; Thor had time to just sit and think quietly about things. He was ready to accept his situation by the time Sif and the Warriors Three arrived, then realized he needed to do even more by the time the Destroyer arrived. I think his change was handled well in the time given.Besides, can we really say how long it was? Mjolnir could have been sitting in that crater for weeks until SHIELD showed up, and word spread back to the town. It's like trying to guess how long Luke was on Dagobah in The Empire Strikes Back.
Sorry, I meant Rage of Olympus.