ok now lets test everyone's knowledge...who is faster Thing or Wolverine...this is for the fanboys who have a bias assumption that Thing is just big and slow...Wolverine is basically peak human in speed...the Thing's mutation did not make him any less fats/ agile/ or flexible than before, this has been repeated in every official marvel handbook. Thing has also ran down the Rhino who can run over 100mph im pretty sure.
marvel handbooks dont mean squat here, but when you come down to it wolvies mass is much less than things, giving him much more maneuverability, and considering wolvies history i would definitely say wolvie is faster than thing, as for wolvie's slashes not being able to pierce thing, his claws are adamantium, when you have an indestructible metal thats razor sharp, you really dont have to put much strength into an attack to pierce anything weaker than adamantium, as its been shown in comics before
I am not arguing the fact that wolvie can cut Thing's skin...this is obvious, Ive seen it done...the handbook does have ground here because it is written by Marvel and is supposed to be official at the time. When multiple writers say that the Thing has not lost speed or flexibility or agility due to his mutation I have to take their word over your opinion. What do u base your opinion on? when has Thing appeared slow? And what do u have to say about him running down the Rhino?...what does mass have to do with it? Thing's physiology is exponentially more efficient than Wolverine's being twice as heavy doesnt mean anything when you're twenty times as strong. Gladiator weighs over two thousand pounds and he is faster than anyone on Earth, so what does mass have to do with it? I say based on my knowledge on both of them, since I read comics about both characters and I'm not ignorant about either one, Thing can easily outrun Wolveine, but in hand to hand fighting one might only have a marginal advantage over the other. Thing's powers include superhuman strength, durability, endurance, AND SPEED...wolverine may only possess enhanced human or peak human speed.
I think Wolverine possesses enhanced human speed, to the point of animalistic speed, and he's most definitely faster than Thing. Yet like someone said, it only takes one blow to daze Wolvie and then Thing can wham on him as he sees fit. Wolverine is fast, but agility is what enables someone to dodge so well, and Wolverine is most definitely not Spider-Man. Didn't you say Wynndar that Thing clobbered Wolvie after he got slashed? Meaning obviously it wasn't enough to stop him. I suppose it's possible for Wolvie to kill Thing, but he'd have to score a perfectly aimed hit.
yeah but the slash he gave to thing just pierced things skin, it wasnt a deep cut or a stab
im not saying thing is slow, thing is definitely not a slow character, but between these two i think wolvie surpasses him in speed, getting hit in the head would definitely daze wolvie, of course logan knows that and would definitely mean that thing would need to hit a perfectly aimed hit also, but if wolvie cuts thing deep anywhere it would slow ben down since ben has no healing factor of his own, while a punch to anywhere on wolvies body would definitely hurt him, he knows that and wont give thing the chance (he's done this before while fighting alot of hand ninja's, if he were to get hurt in an artery or heart it would definitely mean trouble, since it would slow wolvie down and give the ninja's an upperhand)
lol yeah. I still give this to wolverine (on average) I've been outrun by guys on the wrestling team, but I'm still quicker than them on the mat so I'd have to assume the same principle applies here too, Wolvie can definitely dodge thing's attacks, (the guy hops circles around the Hulk people!) and while thing's size doesn't effect his speed it definitely affects the outcome of this fight, Wolverine's alot smaller of a target to hit, Think about a crazy man half your size and quicker than you bouncing around, attacking you with razor sharp blades. It's not like wolverine has to pinpoint his strikes to hit the thing (the guys the size of a small truck) but the thing surely has to make more of an effort to hit Wolverine. Like I said before Thing CAN take Wolverine out, but there are too many advantages for wolverine to take here.
You being quicker doesn't mean anything if you can't pin your opponent. Wolverine can't 'pin' Thing, he can scratch him, maybe even skewer him, but it's much easier for Thing to lay him out with a punch than for Wolverine to completely disembowel him: which is what he'd pretty much have to do for Thing to be out of the fight. An attack with his claws will harm Thing, but not enough to take him out. Wolvie's faster, but he's not the Flash or Spider-Man and can still be caught.
Hulk can hit Wolverine, why Benji cannot, i think this fight goes to The Thing.
Anyway, i found the way to kill Wolverine if you're not a superpowered guy:
Overload is body with machineguns load with sleepingbullets, then some napalm for 10minutes, then take him on an airplane blocked and drop him into a volcano.Bye bye logan.
It's a common misconceptiont hat Logan cannot have his neck broken, but he indeed can. Thing doesn't have to break the adamantium, with which the skeleton is laced. The bones can be broken because they are only protected by the adamantium, not made of it. It takes higher than normal strength, but Wolvie has had his neck broken before by Hulk *in the What If? comic* and died, and even told Spider-Man that if he, Spidey, broke his, Wolvie's, neck, he, Spidey, would succeed in killing him, Wolvie.
he can have his neck broken, but he's been in situations where he's had his entire spine broken and survived it in more situations than that ONE time when logan stated spidey can kill him by snapping his neck in the history of marvel comics
that spiderman/wolvie crossover was simply a writer trying to go on with his comic, and that what if? is just that...what if?
my point was saying that wolvie can attack weak spots that deal with maneuverability (like his ankles, knees, and shoulders) and while thing can take out wolvie (not in one hit, as they've shown against hulk) he is a smaller target than things 6 foot tall and 500 lbs.
btw in the new mk wolverine solo, logan mentions that he's taken thing down before, and theres no reason why he cant do it again and also mentions thing fights like a wrestler
the skeleton theory may be true, it would explain alot of the stuff his spine has survived, unless his body can simply heal his spinal chord in a matter of seconds, as i've said before he survived being sandwiched by two high speeding cars, i wish i had the pic to show it but dont have a scanner, maybe i could scrounge up the pic online....but at that time he had no adamantium in his bones and took about 20 minutes for him to heal from it
it has been said that the adamantium and his bones have bonded on a molecular level (from his healing factor and the amount of time he's had the adamantium since he first got them) so it would make sense that the ligaments would bond in some way also
It wasn't just the one time he's mentioned that. He's said it before. If you don't like the What If? then what about Hulk 181 when he knocked Wolvie out with one blow and that was to the skull. If it had been to the neck it probably would have killed him. His spine isn't his neck, a person lives with a broken spine, but usually a broken neck kills a person. However, you don't die from the neck bones breaking, you die from the shock to the nervous system, and Wolverine is still a human being and has a human nervous system, adamantium or not.
I doesn't matter were Wolverine is hit by the Hulk, the force should turn his whole body into mush... but it doesn't. Or maybe it does and they artist just aren't aloud to draw really gruesome pictures. When Wolverine fights bricks, more then once the captions have said that his muscles and flesh were liquefied by the force, but he looks fine in the picture so who knows
Wolvie is portrayed as faster...but by definition of Thing's powers he should be equally as fast...Im not going to get into the physics but for Thing to throw an object into space he has to move his arm much faster than a regular human is capable...I dont think we need to talk about either one killing the other, Thing holds back and although Wolvie can cut Thing, he can't stab right through him.
he can stab through thing, in mk wolverine #22 he stabs things left arm (claws straight through) right in the artery that causes massive blood loss and death in about 15 seconds for humans, so thing could take it but it definitely slowed him down
moving his arms in a fast enough motion to throw something into space doesnt exactly define speed, it does define great presicion along with the strength in his arms,