Deserters

Last night on CNN the Pentagon reported that so far 5000 American soldiers have deserted their ranks and headed to Canada.

I found it funny that a reporter said that we have no problem coming to our country because we're "a bunch of peace-niks".

Not much time was devoted to the reasons that they were deserting, or that many of the deserters are long time servicemen and woman with previous combat experience. Seems like most of the time was spent on talking about how Canada is accepting them (and insinuating that we are somehow anti American).

Any thoughts?

good for them. i respect their decision. they are being used and exploited
for profit and i think its great that they have said a collective "f*** you" to this administration.

now here come all the armchair patriots to tell us how they are traitors and blah blah blah. i ask any of them if they ever served their country in a war.

as far as I know the US military is not a conscript army, and as long as you choose to join it you have to stick by that decision and fulfill the contract. So due to the fact that they contracted themselves to serve US and then desert that contract it aint nothing but treason, if US had had a draft it would be a different matter altogether.

If it were purely a contractual problem that contract may be void. What about the gov't breaking their own contracts by making soldiers stay longer than they were originally contracted to? There is also an agreement that the gov't won't put their military in a situation that would cause unnecessary harm. If the gov't has illegally extended their soldier's tours, and put them in an unnecessarily harmful situation, then hasn't the gov't not lived up to it's side of the contract?

The government would have no hesitation in using and abusing, I say good for those soldiers. Treason? Please.... they do more than is necessary and get no respect or appreciation, they're nothing but a stat. Then suddenly they decide it's about time they said 'f.uck this', and it's all about the treason.

There is also an agreement that the gov't won't put their military in a situation that would cause unnecessary harm

But a contract is a thing that should be respected equally by both sides, now are all 5000 of the deserters a victim of this or did some just get scared shitless during the first hostile fire.

point number one... I don't know about the yanks, but in this country a soldier makes an oath that during his term in the army, navy or airforce he will obey the commands given by those placed above him... in other words, no deserting unless ordered too.... if you're scared of being sent to a war zone, don't join the army!! A friend of mine is a captain in the Royal Marines, and every time he and his men are sent into a war zone, they are given a piece of paper which they can sign to opt out and leave the marines.... all his men just chuck them in the bin... he's served in Yugoslavia, Kuwait, Belize, Northern Ireland and he was in Iraq blowing up communications lines the day before war was officially declared.....

Point number two.... its a bit rich the Americans calling the Cannucks "peaceniks!!" The Canadians were in the First World War three years before America decided to come in, and they were fighting on all fronts in WWII from 1939.... beating the Yanks by a little over two years..... plus who ever remembers the Canadian contribution to the Korean War, and to numerous UN peacekeeping missions...

Why do people join the army then in time of war run?

I actually agree. they broke a contract. Tey are not heroes at all. Why the **** did they join the army? I mean I don't join ours since I don't like to be shot.

Because, as several people have mentioned already, the government is hardly living up to their end of the agreement. They've been sent into the worst possible conditions, and then when their time over there is up, that they need to stay longer. That's pretty ****ed up. Despite the fact that they DID sign up to be in the army, I can hardly say I blame them. It's a tough one...

Originally posted by Darth Revan
Because, as several people have mentioned already, the government is hardly living up to their end of the agreement. They've been sent into the worst possible conditions, and then when their time over there is up, that they need to stay longer. That's pretty ****ed up. Despite the fact that they DID sign up to be in the army, I can hardly say I blame them. It's a tough one...

They should have known what they were getting into when they signed up. That really pisses me off.. I hope they dont let those pieces of shit back into America.

Good for them, I'm sure they can have a very nice peaceful life in Canada without the fear of crazy Iraqis shooting at them.

Originally posted by KidRock
I hope they dont let those pieces of shit back into America.

After living in Canada I dont think they'll want to come back.

Originally posted by Tex
After living in Canada I dont think they'll want to come back.

good.

Originally posted by KidRock
They should have known what they were getting into when they signed up. That really pisses me off.. I hope they dont let those pieces of shit back into America.

No, you're missing my point completely. Being told that you have to stay in some shithole being shot at six months longer than you were originally told is not what they signed up for, idiot.

Originally posted by Darth Revan
No, you're missing my point completely. Being told that you have to stay in some shithole being shot at six months longer than you were originally told is not what they signed up for, idiot.

That is no reason to desert..omg you have to stay there for a little longer god forbid. jesus christ since when did people in this world become such pussies? They singed up for it, they have to deal with it.

Yeah, you go live in Iraq for a year and a half in 130 degree heat with a bunch of nutjobs trying to kill you and then tell me that, mmm'kay?

Originally posted by Darth Revan
Yeah, you go live in Iraq for a year and a half in 130 degree heat with a bunch of nutjobs trying to kill you and then tell me that, mmm'kay?

I didnt sign up to do it.. they did. And if I did join the army and was sent there I would deal with it not run to Canada.

More people should desert, then maybe this stupid war would end.

I guess the Army is becoming like any regular job. You don't like it so you quit. Great! Good thing the army isn't like a Union shop.