According to your flawed analogy, as a subordinate subjected to higher power, you should always accept the order given from above, no matter how many objections you have against it. In relevance, these soldiers are deserting because they feel strongly opposed to the illegal war, and orders to target hospitals and refuge bases are not part of the "job description" when one volunteers to give up their service to the military; all the while with delusions of 'free college' so they can camp in the poor, dupe them and send them off to fight for the rich who direct orders overseas, safe in their couches.
So in doing so, while orders to slay and brutalise civilians, you seem to not object to such actions. There is not one part of the advertisements given that this is what the war is actually about; you don't get reports of the Iraqi dead in the main press, it's not even reported that the actual doctors and clerics who were numbering how many Iraqi people were dying and wounded were arrested and taken to the prisoner camps, which incidently, does not have a very clean record of its own, with numerous cases coming to the public of abusement of their detainees. Remember, these 'prisoners' are not all guilty, most don't even have a trial. This is the complete dehumanisation of the Arab people; and most soldiers will not stand for this, and thus, should be supported for their dissidence.
If they are not willing to take orders why join the army in the first place!? and the war is not really illegal is it considering it got the backing of 70% of the active European union? and also if you know anything at all about the armed forces (most of the males in my family have at one point served) you should know that you take a oath of allegiance, in which you would serve you country whole heartedly to the best of your ability. if you don't agree with the oath don't sign it simple as. If every person deserted there positions at the moment of trouble the Americans would be speaking Japanese and the English German.
Originally posted by Goldensky
If they are not willing to take orders why join the army in the first place!? and the war is not really illegal is it considering it got the backing of 70% of the active European union? and also if you know anything at all about the armed forces (most of the males in my family have at one point served) you should know that you take a oath of allegiance, in which you would serve you country whole heartedly to the best of your ability. if you don't agree with the oath don't sign it simple as. If every person deserted there positions at the moment of trouble the Americans would be speaking Japanese and the English German.
Anyone with half a brain can see its an illegal war. The Iraqis did ****-all to us and the American Government. How is an American soldier protecting America by serving in Iraq shooting down innocents frightened to death at being bombed in the night by cowards and thugs. So by your rationale if the American Government sent troops into any country, regardless of the reasons then that soldier is defending America. In the Second World War the Japanese and the Nazis were an actual physical threat which promised invasion if we didn't fight. This is completely different and until the stubbornly patriotic (or arrogant) Americans realise this other deserters will more than happily leave (to tell the truth its the soldiers that are happy staying scare me, but they are probably having fun).
I could probably envision an American Army oath.
' Raise your right hand and repeat after me. I will, as a soldier of the American Army carry out my duties as a totally unprofessional soldier, I will cowardly bomb mosques with no regard to innocent life. The Iraqi lying on the ground unarmed and injured will feel the godly wrath of the M16 assault rifle with no attempt at mercy. I will completely make sure that all prisoners of war are treated with the upmost disrespect, hatred and physical torture. President Bush is our true christian saviour and he will deliver us from all evil, namely the Iraqi militants and coughcivilianscough. Now kiss your gun, you're in.'
Anyone who has a problem with my rendition of the oath - my heart bleeds 🙄
noo ya c ur knowledge of the WW" is pretty Pooh, we declared war on Germany cos they invaded Poland . Hitler wanted england too be there Alie he said he admired the British! so the British would have been fighting someone Else's war again. the only dif then was the war was thought more in person then