Originally posted by KidRock
The only reason I want bush to keep soldiers in Iraq is so that country can get on its feet and not be a terrorist hideout and keep fighting those insurgents so the country isnt overun. Saddam could have hated Al-quada all he wants but do you think he would have broke up a terrorist group plotting to attack America?
So by your logic, we should kill every leader who we don't think would crack down on a terrorist group anywhere in the world? Oh, and Saddam definitely would have wiped out an Al-Qaeda cell if he knew they were in his country. Like I said, Saddam and Osama had beef with each other. And he (Saddam) probably feared as well that if Al-Qaeda had taken hold in Iraq, there would have been a civil war, and at the end of it he would have been out of power. Insane, cruel, evil even? Yes. Stupid? No.
Now don't you give me any of this "he was an evil dictator" crap unless you realize just how many dictators there are in the world that we simply ignore, or even help out.
"OR maybe in 5 years Iraq will be a stable country fighting its own war on terror.."
You know more about the middle east then you know about the problem of terrorism!!! LOL I come from Asia, it would be by the end of your kids generation before that happens.lol
This is not simple bang !!!pow!!! here is democracy. Thank you come again !!! You do that you yanks would be back to fight off another dictator. Iraqi people want freedom but it's in the the middle east. There is so much outside influence that it will never happen.
to put it this way my military experience which is kind of long, says Im glad I aint in Iraq. not because I would be scared to be there but hostile fire around your ears all the time might dissolute you.
Even the best of the soldiers face that event.
All hails to the soldiers in Iraq..from a soldier taken his tall in Norway
The case of Jeremy Hinzman, a soldier trying to gain refugee status in Canada, as he refused to fight the war in Iraq, is having former Marine Sgt. Jimmey Massey, who served in Iraq during the initial invasion, testify on his behalf. Massey will tell the hearing that as his battalion moved into Baghdad, every civilian vehicle was treated as an enemy target. If cars didn’t stop at U.S. checkpoints, “we were lighting them up…discharging our weapons, 50 cals and M-16’s into the civilian vehicles.” In May, Massey told the U.S. radio and television show “Democracy Now!” that the Marines would search the cars they had attacked but “we would find no weapons...I would say my platoon alone killed 30-plus innocent civilians.” Massey also recalled firing into a demonstration near the Baghdad International Airport and then realizing that, “Oh, my God—we just opened up on a group of peaceful demonstrators.” He insists that these were not isolated accidents, but rather that the war “violated every rule of the Geneva Convention that I have been taught.”
Such actions are war crimes. These are the conditions in which many soldiers face, plus the hinging label of so-called 'freedom fighters' and yet have the duality to massacre innocent Iraqi civilians. The body count is reaching over 10, 000 Iraqis, and as the war worsens, impending doom nigh, and no end of violence in sight.
dont know how the forces work in america, but in england if we sign up to the british army we take the bad with the good.... despite what we think wether we think its right or wrong we are there to do job... untill told other wise we stand 4 our country and government and we stand pround that. there is no honour in running, do you think that my grandad had the same option in the world war NO when his fellow soldiers were dieng around him the smell of blood and death was circulating in the air. his chest tight with fear unable to speak hadnt slept in days the noise of gun fire ringing in his ears eyes blurred from the smoke that had already consumed most. did he every doubt why he was there NO he lifted his gun up wiped the snot from his nose and enhayled and shouted rule fukin brittania. thats what defending your country is all about. good or bad right or wrong prepare to be there for your country or stand back and watch out for the true hero's the people how do give a ****
Originally posted by Liquidice
thats what defending your country is all about. good or bad right or wrong prepare to be there for your country or stand back and watch out for the true hero's the people how do give a ****
Yes, but since the WMD lies Britain and America are not defending our countries from an invasion or a threat so the ideals of soldiers tend to change when the blatant wrongness of the situation hits them. You know something, it's probably harder for those soldiers knowing that they've deserted their comrades and left them to fight without them. They believe they don't want to die for an insane president's ambitions and that makes them okay by me.