Only way I'd be in the army is if Scotland was independent and under threat and I'd been conscripted.
Sod choosing to fight for Britain, the Queen, and all that rubbish.
As for deserters who joined of their own free will, I have no sympathy for them. As I see it, they signed up to do whatever was asked of them by their superiors. Te dude who said that obeying the chain of command is essential was spot on.
My Grandfather joined the army for five years.... he was in for eleven and a half because of a little thing called the Second World War.... not sure if the American army does the same as ours, but in the British Army, you serve your term, and are then on Reserve for a period of between five years and fifteen years (or life for some specialists...) at any time during this reserve period, if the army wants you, the army gets you.... so you serve your time, and on the day you leave, theres a war... the army say "you're a reservist, you're staying in until...." and thats all there is to it...
Originally posted by manny321
Yeah, but thier are alot of terrorists in other countries still. So in your terms we should just invade the whole middle east and kill hundrends of thousands of people, which we have already done in Iraq. Yes sudam killed many but we are killing many people ourselves.
So would you rather spare the lives of all the soldiers who died in this war and risk a terrorist attack in the states that would kill thousands of innocent civilians?
Originally posted by KidRock
Lots of terrorists are being killed in Iraq.. what if one of those terrorists that were killed happened to live becuase we never invaded iraq.. and they caused another 9/11.. then what?
The only way to be completely sure we have gotten rid of all the terrorists is to nuke the whole damn planet and kill everyone on it. That's right kids, there are terrorists even here in the good ol' US of A, in fact the guys responsible for 9/11 had been living here for several years before the attacks.
Originally posted by Darth Revan
The only way to be completely sure we have gotten rid of all the terrorists is to nuke the whole damn planet and kill everyone on it. That's right kids, there are terrorists even here in the good ol' US of A, in fact the guys responsible for 9/11 had been living here for several years before the attacks.
Would you rather have 500 terrorists on the earth.. or 5000? 🙄
Originally posted by BackFire
Not really, keep in mind that last terrorist attack originated from Afghanistan, NOT Iraq. Also, several nations are far more capable of a devistating attack on the US then Iraq.
Do you honestly think there arent terrorists who were in Iraq and who are now dead? I think Bush picked a good fight going after Iraq rather then taking on someone like North Korea.
Originally posted by KidRock
Would you rather have 500 terrorists on the earth.. or 5000? 🙄
Do you honestly think that out of over 6 billion people, only 5000 would ever think of commiting a terrorist act, and that 4500 of these 5000 lived in Iraq and are now dead, and that furthermore, once you've wiped out one generation of terrorists, there will never be any more people who will think of doing the same? You're stupider than I thought.
Originally posted by KidRock
Do you honestly think there arent terrorists who were in Iraq and who are now dead? I think Bush picked a good fight going after Iraq rather then taking on someone like North Korea.
Saddam hated Al-Qaeda in the first place. All the war has done is turn Iraq into a potential breeding ground for terrorists. It's just total chaos over there right now, and if the various insurgent groups ever drive the US troops out, we're going to have more terrorists on our hands than we did in the first place.
Originally posted by Darth Revan
Saddam hated Al-Qaeda in the first place. All the war has done is turn Iraq into a potential breeding ground for terrorists. It's just total chaos over there right now, and if the various insurgent groups ever drive the US troops out, we're going to have more terrorists on our hands than we did in the first place.
OR maybe in 5 years Iraq will be a stable country fighting its own war on terror..instead of having us helping them they will be able to defend themselves..
Originally posted by Darth Revan
Do you honestly think that out of over 6 billion people, only 5000 would ever think of commiting a terrorist act, and that 4500 of these 5000 lived in Iraq and are now dead, and that furthermore, once you've wiped out one generation of terrorists, there will never be any more people who will think of doing the same? You're stupider than I thought.
The only reason I want bush to keep soldiers in Iraq is so that country can get on its feet and not be a terrorist hideout and keep fighting those insurgents so the country isnt overun. Saddam could have hated Al-quada all he wants but do you think he would have broke up a terrorist group plotting to attack America? I doubt it. 5-10 years hopefully that country will be on its own feet and people will be able to be free to do what they want without fear of being gassed by saddam. Your right though.. I am a completely stupid.. what was I thinking wanting to give other people the chance of living a good free life like I do. Curse me for being such a tyrant.
OR maybe in 5 years Iraq will be a stable country fighting its own war on terror..instead of having us helping them they will be able to defend themselves..
More likely that within' 5 years Iraq will slip into a civil war and the fundamental Islamic Factions will sway the people in a war torn country to their side. It is amazing that you can justify all these american, allied and iraqi deaths predicated on a "MAYBE".
And this war served only to distablize the region, and kill alot of people.
As for your comment regarding bringing the freedoms that you have to the Iraqi people, first I encourage you to investigate the freedoms that you have, and the freedoms that you percieve you have. Second I ask you not to be so ignorant as to assume that every one in the world wants to live like an american.