Sabretooth can more certainly 'hit' Spiderman, but in a comic book, I can almost guarentee that most of his hits will be closed hand punches and kicks.
Against any other opponent Sabretooth uses the claws on every single blow, but against Spiderman I'm sure any shot to the face would be closed fist.
Only the body gets scratches...not the head.
Originally posted by jinzin
well for one thing alone, he has a healing factor. lol. As hard as that is to believe he didn't show any signs of having one back in the day. After pulling the webbing off of his face he hadn't even recovered by 2 months later. In the same token sabretooth took the same kinds of injuries by wolverine's hands and healed in three panals, and that was with adamantium which slows down the healing factor. With adamantium his healing factor is faster than wolverine's without adamantium. Wolverine without his adamantium poisoning slowing him down puts his healing factor into overdrive to the point where xavier said at one point the only real way to kill wolverine would be a quick decapitation. Sabretooth's being faster than that is absurd perhaps but no less valid. Sabretooth now has superstrength in excess of 5 to 6 tons for sure possibly even 10 though the limits of his physical strength have not yet been tested. Read a few of my previous posts for sabretooth "feats of strength". Also as I said he's got unbreakable adamantium now.So kontraz, that's why spidey isn't KOing sabretooth. Spidey gave "everything he had" addmittedly to wolverine with full on blows to the face. Sabretooth has a faster healing factor that allows him to recover from being stabbed in the brain in a few hours, or minutes, he has an adamantium skeleton as well, and is waaaaay physically stronger than wolverine. Spiderman isn't knocking out anyone.
Strawnilla, your whole defense for spiderman is that he will win since he can't be hit, when he has been hit by street-speed characters hundres of times......FREAKING HUNDREDS. (by the way I wasn't calling doom a street level character, I was insinuating that his fighting speed is at a street level, he has no super reflexes or super speed in a fist fight, and he was able to pummble spidey with ease, almost killing him. You want to take the (crap writing argument) CWA out of this than fine, I'll put you between a rock and a hard place. In Punisher's first appearance spidey was able to dodge bullets and was later kicked in the grill by pun,,,,,so was that crap writing? If you say yes than spiderman bullet dodging is too, if you say no than you have to concede that street-speed characters can hit spidey....pick your poison but either way, it doesn't change the fact that spiderman has been hit and will continue to be hit by street-speed characters for years. By the way, you don't believe bats can dodge flurries of bullets? how many batman comics have you read? pfffft. Being more elastic, book smart, slightly stronger, slightly faster, and more agile will do him nothing as soon as sabretooth gets in his one good hit. You keep forgeting to add a couple of things there Who can take more punishment? who can take more punishment and keep coming? who has the killer instinct? who isn't above using "bait" to his advantage?
Spiderman tops out sabes in a number of factors it's true but spiderman can't hit sabretooth with anything that will put sabretooth down. It all comes down to the webbing. And if spiderman can't capitalize on it than he's screwed it's that simple.
umm... wolverine was able to heal from a nuke that stripped him down to nothing but bones by the next panal... dont think i've seen sabe heal that fast...
and is there even a question on whether or not spidey can capitalize on webbing??? I mean... isn't that a given? the ONLY time i've seen him actually not use it to its fullest was against venom one of the first times they fought, and that was mainly just to show how much better an infinite supply of actually organic webbing is...
Originally posted by jinzin
pfffft. Being more elastic, book smart, slightly stronger, slightly faster, and more agile will do him nothing as soon as sabretooth gets in his one good hit. You keep forgeting to add a couple of things there Who can take more punishment? who can take more punishment and keep coming? who has the killer instinct? who isn't above using "bait" to his advantage?
Spiderman dodges bullets, Sabretooth walks through titanium bullets like its nothing. wolverine #166
You guys like to say SM will go Apecensored2 on sabretooth, what you guys seem to over look is his adamantium skeleton. SM going Apecensored2 on Sabretooth will more than likely hurt him more than sabretooth.
If this goes by the books and spidey underestimates sabretooth like he did last time, hes gona be in for a surprise. Hes gona say WOW!!! SOMEONES BEEN THROUGH SOME CHANGES!!!!!! That will be his lasts words as he is bleeding helplessly on the ground.
No just joken 😉 whoever is hiring sabretooth to get spidey will probably want spidey alive. (for the sake of the hero)
But if spidey just jumps sabretooth cause his spidey sense starts tingling not knowing if he is just some street thug or really a hired killer (a very dangerous hired killer). Then he would be in a surprise, and will get hurt.
I just though this together please dont tell me about my language errors. OR ILL censored KILL YOU!!!! JK 🙂
you should really take that crack back... its obviously no good....
i mean, really, spidey underestimate someone? When was the last time he underestimated someone who he has already fought? Yes, saber got some upgrades, but its not like spiderman has been sitting on the couch getting fat this whole time either. Really, bad writing aside, spidey has this one in the bag.
Originally posted by Kontraz
you should really take that crack back... its obviously no good....i mean, really, spidey underestimate someone? When was the last time he underestimated someone who he has already fought? Yes, saber got some upgrades, but its not like spiderman has been sitting on the couch getting fat this whole time either. Really, bad writing aside, spidey has this one in the bag.
What i meant was, he fought him, and embarrassed him rather badly. Thats why he may underestimate him.
And it was a crack..........0_o relax.....i didnt go and curse out your mother. < (thats the kinda stuff that gets your censored2 kicked, cursing out peoples moms that is).
lol this is an arguement argue no need to lash out pokey.
(im just joken brotha) jester
Well kontraz in response to your example. Wolverine got hit with a tacticle nuke yes, but it took him nearly a day to recover, It was daytime when he got hit and it was nighttime when he got up. He didn't heal instantly, or in the next panal like some people on these boards might have you believe. I mean the agent had enough time to do some "surgery" and booby trap logan wth a bomb before he woke up.
Also it wasn't the Nuke that stripped logan down to his bones, When logan got hit with the nuke, the next thing we see is wolverine in fetal (sp?) position, but his skins still there. In that comic arc however I think you're reffering to when the agent hit wolverine with his high powered cell phone lazer, that DID strip wolvie to bones, but wolverine didn't recover by the next panal, (he was begining to heal a couple panals later) but it took wolverine a while still to recover (enough time for venom to get a new host after a hostage situation and for the weird twin babes to get in a ship and nuke the place.)
But that aside, that isn't my opinion, wolverine addmittedly stated that sabretooth's (with adamantium poisoning) healing factor was faster than wolverine's (w/o adamantium). That came from Wolverine himself, i didn't make it up.
as for spidey winning, I suppose we'll have to agree to disagree.
Originally posted by Linkalicious
Here's a question.was that comic series even part of comic continuity? I know the artwork was horrible in it, but I don't know if the events in that mini series are even considered legit or just another Marvel Knights-esque take on the characters.
you mean the "venom" series? No, it wasnt.
Wait do we Know that it wasn't in comic continuity? I mean the whole eddie brock venom agle tied in with the spiderman "the hunger" arch. I'm not saying that it isn't in continuity, but I haven't seen anything to prove that it isn't. Well no sort of official word from marvel themselves, if you have though (sincerely) let me know. It's just that unless Marvel says that it's not in continuity I can't say that it isn't.
Not that marvel continuity is all that great anyway. WTF is wolverine doing running around with the x-men, the x-men and the FF, the new avengers, and sheild all at the same time? that doesn't make any sense! Same for spidey, and half the other marvel heroes these days.
Not even, common I know you've read lethal protector, in that series alone, venom had spidey at his mercy at least 3 times, in i think spectacular spiderman 375,,,,(I don't remember) the comic where spidey and venom make an uneasy truce, venom was sufficating spidey to death until he got hit with sonics from behind, and a ferris wheel almost fell on his woman. Then when the collecter got a bunch of the x-men and some marvel villains, Venom was killing spiderman again until storm whacked him from behind with a lightning bolt, Venom KOed spidey in venom 18 I believe with rather ease. Even the example you're reffering to Venom gased spidey had him at his mercy took him the island and they fought yes, but spidey didn't beat him, didn't even come close, instead he faked his death and hightailed his ass of the island. Venom stayed on the island as a happy guy and EVEN THEN when spidey went to go get venom's help to fight carnage and get himoff the island, Even with the human torches help and spidey's own sonic gun, venom was once again getting the best of him, both of them actually, spidey only got out of that alive after jonney hit him from behind with a lazer. then spidey nearly got killed along with supes in that crossover at venom's hands. Then venom had spidey at his mercy again in along came a spider.....time after time venom kicks spidey's ass. Spidey can't take him on without interference, dumb luck, or a decent amount of sonics or fire. The only time that spidey has successfully taken down venom without any of these was in the exile returns, but that wasn't parker it was ben and even then he had a little dumb luck on his side. the only other reaaaally embarrasing defeat was when spderman baked down venom with a lighter (ridiculous, but the whole comic was more or less a big in-joke anyway).
well I know that the sonic gun came from reed richards, I just didn't want to confuse people who might think that I was implying the human torch was hitting him with a sonic gun instead of spidey. I didn't mean that spidey manufactured it himself just that it was spidey w/sonic, and the human torch vs. venom, and they got their collective ass handed to them.