Originally posted by Lightsnake
Ok, Plpatine's stronger in the force than Mace and he was still redirected, anyways.
nd Malak doesn't even scratch Palpatine
Malak knows Force Drain as well. And Force Drain is not like Force Lightning. It starts consuming life of intended victims as soon as it is launched at the victim.
Malak can stun individuals as well. What you have to say about this?
Originally posted by Lightsnake
It still has to lash out at the victim. Vaapad would prevent a direct assault on Mace with a darkside power.And wow, Malak can stun people. Ok, how about Mace force crushes his sorry ass before he can? And when's Malak stunned someone as strong as Mace?
And he stunned Revan on Leviathan. Now what you will have to say?
Originally posted by Lightsnake
in gameplay, yes. But if we take gameplay, then we can change a lot of things.And Revan had hardly achieved his full abilities by the Leviathan.He hadn't even remember who he was. Malak couldn't do the same by the Star Forge, could he?
The fight on Leviathan happened after the revelation. And on Leviathan, Revan made Malak run in to a different location after over-powering him in a Saber Duel.
But Malak had demonstrated some impressive Force moves on even Leviathan like Force Whirlwind, Stunning Multiple Targets at the same time, Deflecting Light Saber Throw etc.
And it was due to Bastilla that Revan and Carth had the chance to escape.
Malak was not easy even on Leviathan. Game Mechanics had messed that fight up. He alone was fighting against 3 powerful individuals on Leviathan on his own terms. And simply toyed with Bastilla and Carth.
Once again: These aren't significant or unique force powers. By the point of the Starforge, Revan has grown exponentially in power, much greater than Leviathan. A normal Malak would've been slaughtered.
And Mace is strong enough to physically punch straight through durasteel and damn fast as well. In the Force, he was only behind Yoda.
Originally posted by Lightsnake
Once again: These aren't significant or unique force powers. By the point of the Starforge, Revan has grown exponentially in power, much greater than Leviathan. A normal Malak would've been slaughtered.
And Mace is strong enough to physically punch straight through durasteel and damn fast as well. In the Force, he was only behind Yoda.
Mace is also among the best.
Regular Malak will be perhaps an easy fight for him. After-all he brought Sidious to his knees in a short fight.
Originally posted by Lightsnake
Ok, Plpatine's stronger in the force than Mace and he was still redirected, anyways.
nd Malak doesn't even scratch Palpatine
You must have missed the part where Mace was losiing control of the lightning. Not to mention Vaapad isn't going to stop a force drain since it's not that type of 'direct attack'. So Mace blocking a force drain is nothing but speculation. It seems to be that you lose all abilities to debate logically when the KOTOR and the PT eras are involved. Mace as able to force crush Grievous, wow. Lets see him crush a powerful jedi/sith. Your argument fails when you institute the "well this guy can do A, B, and C attacks easily".
Originally posted by Lightsnake
Force drain is very direct: It siphons the energy of, in this case, one person and focuses on them entirely.
And Malak isn't as strong as Mace, that's pretty damn obvious.
By the PT times, Malak would be absolutely nothing to the prime warriors.
1. Speculation, speculation, and speculation. I won't even dissect your ridiculous "Nobody compares to the PT Jedi" crap.
2. so youre saying Mace's Vaapad will stop Nihilus' force drain? Lets just go back to reality where all Mace's "vaapad" can do is temporarily stop force lightning. But hey, Obiwan did that with Dooku's force lightning too. So what is your point besides you have no evidence that Vaapad can stop any force abilities.
Ok, Plpatine's stronger in the force than Mace and he was still redirected, anyways.
Sorry to interrupt, but please. Palpatine flashed only a taste of his Lightning (he was trying to show Anakin how weak he was), and itself nearly overwhelmed Windu. When Palpatine went all out, Mace was thrown miles into the Coruscant skyline. Mace's Vapaad only lasted to the power of Sidious's extremely weakened Lightning attack.
Originally posted by Lightsnake
1. Take it up with George, k? K.
2. Umm...yeah, exactly what I'm saying. Prove that's all it can do or stop talking. Oh, btw, Obi-wan did not form a loop, nor did he deflect FL.
read Shatterpoint or the ROTS novelization and then get back to me
1. There's nothing to take up with George, because you're making shit up and speculating in favor of the PT Jedi. Try again.
2. And yes, Obiwan did reflect Dooku's lightning in AOTC, unless you want to argue against movies. That should destroy your already weak argument.
1. http://www.starwars.com/episode-i/bts/me1/6.html
Love you, George
2. Where did he deflect it? Point me to one instance. Just one
Originally posted by Lightsnake
1. http://www.starwars.com/episode-i/bts/me1/6.html
Love you, George
2. Where did he deflect it? Point me to one instance. Just one
You have got to be kidding. This is evidence that Mace>Malak or that Mace can block dark side powers? Wow lightsnake, I always make fun of planet/nebaris, but you take PT fanboyism to a whole new level where logic doesn't exist. Now please, either add a cogent argument or add nothing at all, because you've yet to make a point.
Originally posted by Sexyback
Lightsnake, that's in respect to choreography, and is comparing the PT to OT, only.
I agree with Lightsnake, Planet. Provide proof as to why Lucas made this statement only in regards to choreography, and not in their overall skill. That he calls it "the Prime of the Jedi" seems to imply an open and shut case.