Originally posted by manny321
who knows maybe were living a dream world. Idiot. I just don't see how something loved by tens of billions of people over 4000 years can be fake.
You know what Nietzsche said -
''Insanity in individuals is something rare - but in groups, parties, nations and epochs it is the rule''
Majority doesnt equal rightness...
Please dont name call either, or ridicule each other. Thanks.
Originally posted by manny321
I agree most religions are much different then they were when they first made. Who just goes and gets crucified. It dosen't make sense. Why would any human do that. He did that for some reason, right.
I think Jesus was an exceptional historical figure, who died for what he believed in. I think his cause was noble, however the corruption that occured afterwards is the bother.
There is no credible evidence whatsoever for the existence of Jesus. No archaeological evidence, no written evidence, nothing. So it is with Solomon, Moses, David, Abraham, Samson and countless other
biblical ‘stars’. All we have are the Levite texts and the Gospel stories in their various versions. So desperate did the religious manipulators become to cross reference ‘Jesus’ that they inserted a pathetically obvious addition into the works of the ‘Jewish’ historian, Josephus, to support the unsupportable. More than 40 writers are known to have chronicled the events of these lands during the alleged time of Jesus, but they
don’t mention him.48 A guy who did all the things that he was supposed to have done and no-one records it? Philo lived throughout the supposed life of Jesus and wrote a history of the Judeans which covered the whole of this period. He even lived in or near Jerusalem when Jesus was said to have been born and Herod was supposed to have killed the children, yet he doesn’t record any of this. He was there when Jesus is said to
have made his triumphant arrival in Jerusalem and when he was crucified and rose from the dead on the third day. What does Philo say about these fantastic events? Nothing.
Not a syllable. Not a titter.49 None of this is mentioned in any Roman record or in the contemporary accounts of the writers of Greece and Alexandria who were familiar with what happened there.50
Why? Because it didn’t happen. It was a symbolic, coded story to pass on esoteric and astrological knowledge of many kinds and, most crucially, to create another prisonreligion based on the symbols of the Babylonian Brotherhood. The human race hasbeen had. Big time.
No, i am saying unless its proven to be fake, you can't just toss god out the window. You are saying that man worshiped by Christians and Muslims (Jesus) is made up. i heard god is fake, but jesus, I heard that from no one until today. I am outraged 😠 I am not a christian. disgust
However i have seen you and i cannot give evidence if God does exist or not. Religion has been used for wrong, but it dosen't mean its all wrong. disgust
Uuum, no, there ARE evidence Jesus existed - scientists have said this over and over again. There is no proof he was a son of god, but he DID exist.
Originally posted by manny321
No, i am saying unless its proven to be fake, you can't just toss god out the window.
Argument of God's existence are only speculations - countless.
Although I dont believe in suc God, I cannot prove he does not exist, just as you cannot prove that he does. Thus, telling someone they are wrong in believing in something you cannot prove does not exist is far fetched and wrong.
Telling someone that ethics are wrong is plausible, in my opinion.
Like I said countless times, just because we do not have the knowledge or the equipment to observe something it does NOT mean that it does not exist. Simple as.
http://www.killermovies.com/forums/f80/t330580.html
go here for interesting info on religion..then make up ya mind
Originally posted by lil bitchiness
Uuum, no, there ARE evidence Jesus existed - scientists have said this over and over again. There is no proof he was a son of god, but he DID exist.
is it credible evidence though
i find it hard to belive that scientists can track back to one man who lived 1000's of years ago
Originally posted by DeanoAre you gonna tell me that Plato and Socrates, Euripides and Aristophanes never existed? And what about Homer?
is it credible evidence though
i find it hard to belive that scientists can track back to one man who lived 1000's of years ago
Are you gonna claim that Muhammed never existed? What about Alexander the Great?
Originally posted by Deano
this is not about greek philospheres though
i dunno if they existed..i ay done much research on them
i think the top 4 u mentioned existed
Wow...well I rest my case about Deanos claim Jesus never existed.
And yes, it is an argument, partally my fault. Please get back on topic or use Religion Forum
Originally posted by manny321
This topic can make us very mad. Religion is a hard issue.
theres no need to get mad though...if u belive it then fair enough..i ay gonna say anythin ..id respect your beliefs..even if they differ to mine...
'There are many who express a loving spirituality through their Christian beliefs. I am talking of the institution of Christianity and its arrogant indoctrination and imposition of its desperately limited vision of life which has created a mind-prison for literally billions of people over almost 2,000 years.'
Originally posted by lil bitchiness
But you;re not sure about Muhammad and Alexander the Great?Wow...well I rest my case about Deanos claim Jesus never existed.
And yes, it is an argument, partally my fault. Please get back on topic or use Religion Forum
i dont know if they existed do i
u tell me