All Of Star Trek Vs All Of Star Wars

Started by Borbarad76 pages

Originally posted by Swanky-Tuna
Yeah, Star Wars does have a ton of history. I'm not even going to pretend I know *every* star trek race or their capabilities but attacks revolving around time manipulation are still viable.

Possibly incorporeal beings with the crazy psionic or otherwise powers. Anyone without crazy high willpower would get mind-raped.

Wohoo...that's exactly what the Jedi would do to the normal ST people with a mere handmovement. We have people in the SW universe that manipulated the minds of thousands / millions of people at once.


Nothing? Lock them in forcefields? Flush them out an airlock? Depressurize the area? Transport them into space? Pull them into the transporter buffer and just let their pattern scatter, killing them? Irradiate the area?

Since you don't seem to know what you are talking about. Jedi can move with unbelievable high speed (faster than blasterbolts as seen in TPM), can control their breath so that they're able to survive in outer space (TPM, KotoR II, CW cartoons), can absorb energy / radiation and have weapon that can cut through nearly every known material. You want to use transporters on them ? I like to see that since the ST transporters normaly only work on "stationary" targets.

And it's nice how you simply ignored the listing of the strongest SW groups with counts are already beyond 10 millions of force users, trillions of uber powerful fighters, quadrillions of normal soldiers, billions of space ships and some superweapons which are beyond everything ever seen in the ST universe.

@Swanky-Tuna:


Out of curiosity, do Star Destroyers have guns on their underside? I stumbled onto another forum discussing it and the phrase "roll the ship" keeps coming up and I almost cried from the laughing.

They have guns on their underside, their upperside and their sides.


I will not discuss direct ship to ship combat on a friggen star wars board.

It doesn't matter where you discuss it. SW shields can take more fire and SW ships have the greater firepower. Logically the ST ships will lose wherever you try to discuss it.


How would you know this? I'd venture to guess one transphasic torpedo could destroy an ISD but I'm not pursuing it further because it was used in the last episode or two of Voyager so I don't know it's full capabilities other than quashing borg cubes.

We know how much the ST and SW shields can take and we know how much firepower an ISD has. If you use some math and now how many ships the Federation has...well...last time I checked not one single Federation ship shielding technology was able to survive fire from an ISD for more than 5 seconds meaning the entire Federation ship would be gone in...what was it...6 hours ?

No use, Nai. He's in denial. If we start using facts, figures and logic his whole delusional world is gonna fall apart.

Face it "Swanky Tuna"... ST is pwned and you don't have jackshit to prove otherwise.

Do I dare?

yeah, why not?

This one is for Swanky-Tuna!
http://www.stardestroyer.net/Empire/Essays/FiveMinutes.html

lol

Pwnage : Revisited!

Originally posted by Dark Aristokrat
lol

Pwnage : Revisited!

Pretty much.

This is the first time I've seen someone try to argue that ST is a more powerful Universe than SW.

Because everyone else has common sense and knows that Star Wars would terminate the Star Trek Universe.

It's pointless to debate with people who will only think in terms of melee combat. The damage from temporal weapons isn't affected by shields (unless they are temporal shields, or hull strength and the temporal ships that use them are phased out of our dimension so weapons fire passes through them. But for some mysterious reason it won't help.

Originally posted by jedi2187
Do I dare?

yeah, why not?

This one is for Swanky-Tuna!
http://www.stardestroyer.net/Empire/Essays/FiveMinutes.html


That is daring to post something that's already been posted 2 or 3 times.

Originally posted by Swanky-Tuna
It's pointless to debate with people who will only think in terms of melee combat. The damage from temporal weapons isn't affected by shields (unless they are temporal shields, or hull strength and the temporal ships that use them are phased out of our dimension so weapons fire passes through them. But for some mysterious reason it won't help.

That is daring to post something that's already been posted 2 or 3 times.

The site alone has virtually disintegrated 90% of your arguments regarding In-Space Dog fights or ST Ship power and SW Ship power.

Agreed. SWanky Tuna... or "ST", as I shall call you from now on... You need to realize you're beaten.

oh great everyone's talking in jargon, i can't join in!!!!!1

Originally posted by Swanky-Tuna
It's pointless to debate with people who will only think in terms of melee combat. The damage from temporal weapons isn't affected by shields (unless they are temporal shields, or hull strength and the temporal ships that use them are phased out of our dimension so weapons fire passes through them. But for some mysterious reason it won't help.

Errr...so now you are assuming that the Fedaration has enough of this weapons (notice torpedos) and ships to vaporize the entirety of SWs ships which number in billions or trillions ?
And then you are ignoring the fact that some SW characters have dimension altering force powers (force storm) and therefore could still tear that ships away not even talking about Yuuzhan Vong who can create artifical black holes which would (as far as my knowledge on astrphysics goes) also affect those ships ?


That is daring to post something that's already been posted 2 or 3 times.

Well...what about reading it once ? Look at the fire power of the SW ships - then have a look at the shield power of the ST ships. You might realize that even smaller space vessels of the SW universe are able to wtfpwn the most powerful ships of the ST universe in seconds.

Originally posted by Jawa Lord
The site alone has virtually disintegrated 90% of your arguments regarding In-Space Dog fights or ST Ship power and SW Ship power.

I had no debates regarding in-space dog fights or ST ship power vs SW ship power. None of it was about conventional fighting at all.

Originally posted by Swanky-Tuna
I had no debates regarding in-space dog fights or ST ship power vs SW ship power. None of it was about conventional fighting at all.

Oh, please Stanky-Tuna; tell us what this debate is all about so we can get on with our non-Trek lives.

Originally posted by jedi2187
Oh, please Stanky-Tuna; tell us what this debate is all about so we can get on with our non-Trek lives.

It was about laming temporal science for the block and the win mostly. That's what I was debating anyhow.

Originally posted by Swanky-Tuna
It was about laming temporal science for the block and the win mostly. That's what I was debating anyhow.

The fact that Star Trek has a somewhat parallel relation to a future universe of our time, the weapons being massively powerful compared to a somewhat homemade universe just doesn't suffice.

I'm sure Star Trek pens wouldn't write on Star Wars paper either.

Even though I don't think either uses pen and paper anymore.

Originally posted by Swanky-Tuna
I'm sure Star Trek pens wouldn't write on Star Wars paper either.

Even though I don't think either uses pen and paper anymore.

I can imagine they don't.

Originally posted by Swanky-Tuna
I'm sure Star Trek pens wouldn't write on Star Wars paper either.

Even though I don't think either uses pen and paper anymore.


I don't think SW fans go to ST conventions either...

Originally posted by calvin44
I don't think SW fans go to ST conventions either...

We go to them with plastic Lightsabers thwapping dumb Klingon kids. Those things hurt like hell.

Mr. Spock, does ST win this debate?

Oooo... the thumb's down! Pwned!

Originally posted by Dark Aristokrat
Mr. Spock, does ST win this debate?

Oooo... the thumb's down! Pwned!

Hahaha!