Originally posted by h1a8so you use Glads moving at his best speed which he rarely fights at if ever. But don't the same using Thanos best reaction or durability fight.
This makes a lot of sense. In reality, Glads would prove too fast for Thanos. The only way I realistically seeing Thanos win over Glads is if Glads doesn't operate with any speed or reflexes or is caught off guard bragging or something.
And you complain about ppl cherry picking feats.
Originally posted by h1a8
See that's where you are wrong. No one is making the characters ACT in ways they never have in the books. Everything comes from the comic. Glad has fought at light speeds and displayed ftl reflexes. Everything is based off what the characters have done in a comic.You have to differentiate between plot induced stupidity and actual character ability.
In comics, characters often job or suddenly lose their "always on" power. A character can choose how they fight and what tactics they will employ. However, they can't choose to have "always on" powers cut off (strength, durability, perception speed, etc.). All characters with average intelligence or above will fight as such AS SHOWN BEFORE in a comic. No genius level character will fight like a retard (for the sake of the plot) in a forum fight.Them being comic characters is irrelevant.
Comic fights are not forum fights because forum fights have rules, comics don't have rules.
Again speed or even perception (for the speedsters) is not always on otherwise their conversations and interactions would always be at superspeed aswell. Most superheroes in comics can perceive at a far greater level than regular humans, even without possessing actual superspeed but can still react accordingly. Hell no human character should ever be able to dodge a character that can move faster than a bullet but this happens REGULARLY in comics and cannot be dismissed just because we think it shouldn't happen.
As I said in a previous post, for anyone not named Flash, speed most of the time just isn't as important as it should be and isn't this insurmountable force it 's made out to be on the forums. If it isn't in the comics then it shouldn't be here either, UNLESS we have seen direct evidence of that speed in that particular instance proving so. Another element is how speed is used IN CHARACTER. It's impossible for comicbooks to be irrelevant when we are using FICTIONAL beings, whose character traits are determined by the WRITERS. As per the rules this isn't what we would do with said characters powers, it's what we THINK that character would do along with evidence to support that.
Originally posted by Delta1938
You still have to prove that Gladiator's perceptions are always what you're arguing, no matter what you say that isn't related to something related to showing his perceptions are always at super speed.By the way, people can see things in "bullet time." Cops and and soldiers and marines and Special Ops and whatnot have reported experiencing this in firefights. One FBI agent talked about how he saw shot glasses falling, and he couldn't figure-out why they said "Federal" on them, until he realized he was reading "Federal" on his partner's spent casings suspended in mid-air(to him).
Also, by the way, "their brains."
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Oh man, now I have heard it all!
Originally posted by Delta1938
You still have to prove that Gladiator's perceptions are always what you're arguing, no matter what you say that isn't related to something related to showing his perceptions are always at super speed.By the way, people can see things in "bullet time." Cops and and soldiers and marines and Special Ops and whatnot have reported experiencing this in firefights. One FBI agent talked about how he saw shot glasses falling, and he couldn't figure-out why they said "Federal" on them, until he realized he was reading "Federal" on his partner's spent casings suspended in mid-air(to him).
Also, by the way, "their brains."
Originally posted by panthergod
It's official : under Starlin, Superman beats Thanos.
That will actually be a good point, Starlin respects superman a lot.
I will even dare to say that under starlin superman has better durability feats than thanos
If superman under starling can damage soul fire darkseid what that same hit will do to thanos? mmm
Soul fire Darkseid wasn't solid mass. Superman was nothing to Infinity Man and was stalemated by Orion. Thanos easily bfr'd Gladiator and referred to him as an annoyance so it is safe to say he would bfr Superman at the start of defeating the Jla.
Superman was an observer in the story for the most part while Orion, the Source, and Darkseid were the real players. Superman was also an annoyance in that story and iirc was even stated in the comic by Darkseid.
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Starlin you stud muffin. It all makes sense.
Gladiator=Superman=annoyance.
Originally posted by Rao Kal ElYes, since he is solid mass. Superman can't fly through Darkseid when he's solid. I am saying that as you brought up Starlin sees both Superman and Gladiator to be annoyances to the big boys.
Are you trying to say that thanos will be more durable than soulfire darkseid?
Superman is a peer to Orion not Darkseid or Thanos according to Starlin.
Originally posted by quanchi112
Yes, since he is solid mass. Superman can't fly through Darkseid when he's solid. I am saying that as you brought up Starlin sees both Superman and Gladiator to be annoyances to the big boys.Superman is a peer to Orion not Darkseid or Thanos according to Starlin.
Wrong as usual, but you are used to it.
Soulfire ds body was tanking very powerful attacks, have you read the issues?
Originally posted by Rao Kal ElI told you why but saying wrong as usual doesn't really offer an explanation.
Wrong as usual, but you are used to it.Soulfire ds body was tanking very powerful attacks, have you read the issues?
Not everything would cause the energy Seid to destabilize but what other physical mass flew through him. It wasn't effective at all.
According to Starlin in that arc Superman was an annoyance just as Gladiator is an annoyance to Thanos.
I'm citing evidence.
Originally posted by quanchi112
I told you why but saying wrong as usual doesn't really offer an explanation.Not everything would cause the energy Seid to destabilize but what other physical mass flew through him. It wasn't effective at all.
According to Starlin in that arc Superman was an annoyance just as Gladiator is an annoyance to Thanos.
I'm citing evidence.
😂 Soulfire Darkseid >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Thanos
So yes, wrong as usual.
Originally posted by Rao Kal ElThat isn't debating. His body isn't solid mass so flying through it to have it reform isn't impressive.
😂 Soulfire Darkseid >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>ThanosSo yes, wrong as usual.
Superman was an annoyance in that story to Infinity Man and Seid. It was stated.
Gladiator was an annoyance to Thanos.