Mace Windu vs. Palpatine vs. Yoda

Lol.

Alright, let's get this straight, once again. Ehem...

1. Palpatine threw Force lightning at Yoda during the initial part of the fight, whilst doing his typical villain monologue. Now. This should've given enough time for Yoda to prepare. Yoda was nailed by the lightning and sent flying across the room, and was knocked temporarily unconscious.

2. Yoda got up and Force pushed Palpatine across the room, where he flipped over his desk. Palpatine got RIGHT BACK up. I believe his endurance is greater than Yoda. Their both old men, though.

3. Palpatine (remember, he said in the movie "all who gain power are afraid to lose it"😉 - he didn't know if he could take Yoda. So what did he do? He tried to run. Yoda was quicker to the door and confronted him. Realizing he couldn't escape - he STOOD and FOUGHT. Notice he did NOT try to escape after that.

4. Palpatine HELD OFF YODA - despite what people believe. Yoda went on the offensive. He was looking to KILL Palpatine - NOT vice versa. Palpatine was on the defensive. People make excuses "I didn't see Palpatine cut down Yoda". Well, Palps was on the defensive. Yoda was on the offensive. YODA was the one looking to cut Palpatine. And he DIDN'T!!!

5. So the fight went into the Senate Chamber. Palpatine switched to the offensive. He was chucking Senate pods left and right at Yoda. Yoda's pretty agile - and dodged them all. Then he threw one back - but had a difficult time doing so. Palpatine was laughing - notice this. At the time, he wasn't taking Yoda seriously. His mistake. Palpatine lept out of the way just as the pod closed in on him.

6. Yoda persued Palpatine and closed in on him - but Palpatine also went on the offensive and fired Force lightning. They were both closing on eachother. Yoda was holding Palpatine's lightning at bay - and Palpatine was continuing to hurl it - and both were struggling to keep these feats up. Yoda threw the lightning back at Palpatine who flipped over the Senate pod. Yoda is obviously much smaller than Palpatine - and went flying in return.

Now.

Yoda fleed from Palpatine. Some people say it was because of the Clones. And again, where is your proof that the Clones were summoned? Palpatine could've called them AFTER Yoda left. He certainly didn't do it during the fight.

Others say it was Mas Amedda who called the Clones. Lol. Mas Amedda left the room in no hurry to help Palpatine. Obviously he figured Palpatine could handle this all on his own. If Amedda was going to get the Clones to help Palpatine - I'd imagine that he would've RAN off to go get them.

Palpatine killed three Jedi Masters in three seconds. An impressive feat that several people tend to neglect. Do remember that even the book and EU material states these three - such as Kit Fisto - to be excellent duelists and worthy of their title as Jedi Masters. So. Basically - he took down THREE Jedi Masters - the equivelant to a Sith Lord - and cut them down in three seconds. By himself.

Maul couldn't do this. Dooku couldn't do this. And Anakin couldn't do this.

I don't have proof that Palpatine orchestrated the fight between him and Mace. All I know is, Palpatine's manipulations and skills at orchestration are far greater than Yoda or Mace could ever dream of. So maybe he purposely lost to Mace. Or maybe he didn't.

1. yoda was obviously faking knocked out
2.palpatine is probably 820 years yunger than yoda(who didnt die till around 900)and yoda was faking to catch him off gaurd
3. thats not bravery thats called attacking when cornered out of fright
4.no he didnt he had to keep running
5. not a difficult time he spun it to make it more dangerous
6.size doesnt always matter in a fight

1. yoda was obviously faking knocked out
2.palpatine is probably 820 years yunger than yoda(who didnt die till around 900)and yoda was faking to catch him off gaurd
3. thats not bravery thats called attacking when cornered out of fright
4.no he didnt he had to keep running
5. not a difficult time he spun it to make it more dangerous
6.size doesnt always matter in a fight

1. Was he? Well, in that case, Palpatine was OBVIOUSLY allowing Mace to get the upper hand. Lol you don't have proof to support it.

2. Palpatine is human. He can't even LIVE to be 900. Consider dogs. Dogs have a shorter life span than humans. Yoda's species simply has a longer one than Palpatine's.

3. Yoda attacked first. Palpatine did not.

4. WTF do you mean?

5. No. He spun it to add some more motion. Not to make it more dangerous. Throwing something down is easier than throwing it up. Yoda had to use his strength to get the pod back up to Palpatine.

6. That has no relevancy at all. I said he threw Palpatine's lightning back at him. The kickback - apparently Yoda isn't familiar with physics - shot Yoda through the air - much more farther than Palpatine.

And as for your Number 4. Palpatine was on the defensive - and Yoda was on the offensive. Palpatine was losing ground, because he was giving it. So he orchestrated the fight to lead them to the Senate arena. Thereby he believed he could gain the advantage by moving into a territory that Palpatine knew far better than Yoda.

Yoda's tough. But so is Palpatine. Like I said - both were a bit out of character. Yoda going on the offensive - Palpatine going on the defensive. Kinda strange.

But the point is - Palpatine orchestrated the fight to lead them to the Senate Chamber. One where the environment would give him the advantage over Yoda. Palpatine is a true soldier. Yoda is a warrior. There is a difference.

Mace would easily beat yoda and Palpatine.

Originally posted by Darth Crazo
I was amazed and surprised in Episode III when mace windu beat palpatine. But then Palpatine beats Yoda! I had always thought of Yoda as by far the most powerful Jedi. I was wondering your thoughts on these duels, and of my idea that it could be a cyclical pattern, like rock paper scissors.

Mace beats Palpatine
Palpatine beats Yoda
Yoda beats Mace

? What do you think of this idea?

sids would win if yoda and mace didnt team up.

if they teamed up then fought, yoda wuld win.

but in an all out brawl, sidious wins.

Palpatine needed mace to win, if he beated mace anakin wouldnt turn to the dark side

^^^ Exactly...I would say Darth Sidious and Yoda are pretty close in the ranges of power. Mace on the other hand is a powerful Jedi Master, but even he has said that Yoda is far greater in strength than he is.

The title "Revenge of the Sith." does kind of tell you the outcome of the Yoda vs. Sidious battle. (If you notice Yoda lost kind of because of luck...not because Sidious's skill, though his skill was able to hold Yoda off...Sidious is more powerful than what people think.) And as well, Yoda's failure makes his words to Luke in ROTJ..."Do not underestimate the powers of the Emperor." more meaningful. I still don't understand why Yoda thought Luke was ready to handle the Emperor...if they might go into lightsaber combat. Luke does become one of the strongest Jedi ever...but at that time he was only a Jedi Knight.

Originally posted by Darth Somebody

Palpatine killed three Jedi Masters in three seconds. An impressive feat that several people tend to neglect. Do remember that even the book and EU material states these three - such as Kit Fisto - to be excellent duelists and worthy of their title as Jedi Masters. So. Basically - he took down THREE Jedi Masters - the equivelant to a Sith Lord - and cut them down in three seconds. By himself.

And Anakin couldn't do this.

I don't have proof that Palpatine orchestrated the fight between him and Mace. All I know is, Palpatine's manipulations and skills at orchestration are far greater than Yoda or Mace could ever dream of. So maybe he purposely lost to Mace. Or maybe he didn't.

Hey quit being dumb sir. First of all in the movie it took more than three seconds, COUNT for god's sake. In the novel it took him a while to kill the first three. If you've read it (which you obviously didn't) there's a part which says anakin saw flashes of purple, red and green and the green (fisto) went out. Now the time between arrival of jedi and anakin is at least 10 minutes (anakin was on the high towers of the temple thinking about padme while they were duelling) Palpatine attacked first, he didn't take yoda seriously and was laughing a lot, anyways he was trying to get away from yoda, i assume because he had stuff to do or was afraid a senator would catch the fight and find out he was an evil sith lord. And quit putting a stupid excuse of physics, yoda fell because he was standing on the tip of the senate disk. Obviously you fail to notice the details and hence we have to put up with your babbling! ugh!

Originally posted by maximvs3
Hey quit being dumb sir.

...exclaims the idiot who is talking trash to someone from a post made way the hell back in 2005 and who hasn't been online since October of that very same year.

to be fair rha is eas mistake ti make.

Only if you're a moron who can't type or read.

Still stalking me/? I'm flattered. EReally.

Originally posted by Stealth Moose
Only if you're a moron who can't type or read.

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These posters *regularly hang out here*. It's silly to accuse them of stalking.

Does Stealth *regualrly hang out at SW RP section*? Because he followd me there and made comments about the chracater I created in Ushgarak's game.

Probably, yea? I mean, what are the odds of a poster hanging out at two star wars related subforums on the same general forum?

Seems really, really high to me. We aren't exactly talking the odds of successfully navigating an astroid field here.