Originally posted by Q99
[B]No, it's just a common insult that fit fairly well.
It's not common. using words like "idiot" is common, or calling someone gay. Roleplaying references are not the norm when it comes to insults. Fact is he makes a rarely used insult in perfect timing that bares very big reflection on my recent activity.
Referencing RPGs in a non-specific way isn't an unlikely coincidence in the least. It barely even qualifies as a coincidence, let alone an unlikely one.
You are being a fool. It was specific, he talks about my charisma and intellect, a single day after i had made my character in ushgarak's game, which was laregely accurate to my character creation choices.
But it didn't have anything to do with the actual character choices you made, or even the game you were playing
Yes it did, that it ewasn;t a dump stat doesn;t mean that it had nothing to do with it, my int was sill clearly lower than chr.
(using a real world figure rather than a game-specific one).
You are acting the idiot/. Bush had nothing to do with the insult, he just served as real weorld example of an idiot. The insult wS TO DO WITH INT AND CHARISMA.
He was purely applying the insult to you as a person.
A specific insult a day after my recent activty that it largely reflects on in my int being lower than my charsima...
A day after you made a character without charisma or int as a dump stat, or even anything that specifically references your character at all?
let us loom atsht facts and stop being stupid.
1. It is not a common insult. That it is used and that I am a roleplay itself is kind of a coincidedece.
2. It was made a day after I made my character in Ushgarak's game, a person that Lucein and Janus seem to know.
3. It at least in part references my char being higher than my int.
4. I am not denying that he was insulting me but it was clearly a double entende/pun, inuslting me as a person with rerevcent to my charactero creatin choices.
The pic pretty clearly has nothing to do with your character who has very balanced stats, and everything to do with Space Moose saying he thinks you're dumb.
You are wrong at acting like a fool btw. Also learn to spell, genius.
Originally posted by Padawan Obi-Wan
It's not common. using words like "idiot" is common, or calling someone gay. Roleplaying references are not the norm when it comes to insults. Fact is he makes a rarely used insult in perfect timing that bares very big reflection on my recent activity.You are being a fool. It was specific, he talks about my charisma and intellect, a single day after i had made my character in ushgarak's game, which was laregely accurate to my character creation choices.
Yes it did, that it ewasn;t a dump stat doesn;t mean that it had nothing to do with it, my int was sill clearly lower than chr.
You are acting the idiot/. Bush had nothing to do with the insult, he just served as real weorld example of an idiot. The insult wS TO DO WITH INT AND CHARISMA.
A specific insult a day after my recent activty that it largely reflects on in my int being lower than my charsima...
let us loom atsht facts and stop being stupid.
1. It is not a common insult. That it is used and that I am a roleplay itself is kind of a coincidedece.
2. It was made a day after I made my character in Ushgarak's game, a person that Lucein and Janus seem to know.
3. It at least in part references my char being higher than my int.
4. I am not denying that he was insulting me but it was clearly a double entende/pun, inuslting me as a person with rerevcent to my charactero creatin choices.
You are wrong at acting like a fool btw. Also learn to spell, genius.
As Space Moose said:
Originally posted by Stealth Moose
Instant Grammar CheckUnless you're using hooks for hands or trying to hammer out replies before the warden removes your internet access, there's simply no excuse for your typos.
Originally posted by axel_jovan
In all-out brawl:Mace wins with Sidious and loses to Yoda.
Sidious loses to Mace and stalemates Yoda.
Yoda wins with Mace and stalemates Sidious.
Yoda prevails.
Nah Yoda beats Sidious in combat on neutral ground. And It's not as close as Mace vs Sidious.
The script confirms this. The confusion comes from the movie which leaves out the scene where Yoda disarms Sidious.
Originally posted by DARTH POWER
Nah Yoda beats Sidious in combat on neutral ground. And It's not as close as Mace vs Sidious.The script confirms this. The confusion comes from the movie which leaves out the scene where Yoda disarms Sidious.
While I don't disagree with your conclusion, isn't the script based on a version of the fight we don't see? After all, the "behind the scenes" concept design of the fight was fairly different, but better showcased Yoda's dominance in saber combat and the Force.
Originally posted by Stealth Moose
While I don't disagree with your conclusion, isn't the script based on a version of the fight we don't see? After all, the "behind the scenes" concept design of the fight was fairly different, but better showcased Yoda's dominance in saber combat and the Force.
Thing is in the movie we see Yoda in a Saber fight with Sidious one scene, and the next we see Sidious (who doesn't seem to have his lightsaber any more) is keeping his distance and throwing senate pods at Yoda.
So there's obviously a scene missing in the middle, which the script has, but for some reason they left it out of the movie. I personally think it was mistake to leave that scene out because the end result was confusing.
So I would suggest that if the script contradicts the movie, then we ignore it because the scene was obviously changed.
On the other hand if it fills in gaps in the movie we don't see then we should take it as G-Canon Imo.
^ They could have had Sidious use the environment to escape Yoda's wrath. Jump onto another senate pod after getting disarmed or something.
But the way it was done after having Mace defeat Sidious made it seem like Mace was more powerful than Yoda. And a lot of people do think that because of the way it was depicted in the end.
Originally posted by Nephthys
I'm just pointing out what the script says. Yoda disarms him then jumps away. It doesn't make any sense.The script shouldn't be taken as acceptable evidence at all imo. If it was a deleted scene maaaaaybe, but they didn't even bother to film it so its obviously non-canon.
That would make most the novel non-canon as well. But as long as there's no contradiction between the novel and movie we take the novel passages as canon.
Similarly I would take the script not only as canon, but as G-Canon, since it was written by the man himself. And shows how he perceived the fight.
With the scene in question, the fact is there is a missing scene there whether it was filmed or not.
Originally posted by DARTH POWER
That would make most the novel non-canon as well. But as long as there's no contradiction between the novel and movie we take the novel passages as canon.Similarly I would take the script not only as canon, but as G-Canon, since it was written by the man himself. And shows how he perceived the fight.
With the scene in question, the fact is there is a missing scene there whether it was filmed or not.
Right. The scripts are considered as upper level canon (G-canon if I remember correctly) and are absolute in their authority as long as they don't directly contradict what we see in the movies.
DP, you've come to a rational conclusion there. Even though the clarity of whether or not Yoda truly disarmed Sidious is difficult to see, logic dictates that we assume the answer most easily inferred without any contradicting evidence, and that is the script and behind the scenes showing Yoda disarming Sidious, even though the jumping away part is entirely stupid (just like the Annie-Obi-Wan disco light show twirling).
This is the scene in question from the script:
YODA unleashes a ferocious assault on PALPATINE, causing him to almost go over the edge. The Dark Lord drops his lightsaber but recovers with a BLAST OF ENERGY from his hands that surrounds YODA. YODA is deflecting the Sith Lord's lightning bolts.
The energy bolts begin to arc back on the Emperor. It looks as if the Dark Lord is doomed.
YODA: Destroy you I will, just as Master Kenobi, your apprentice will destroy.
YODA jumps to a lower Senate Pod. PALPATINE reaches out with one hand, and a Senate pod is released from its mooring and heads toward the Podium. PALPATINE uses the Force to hurl pod after pod at YODA, who ducks and jumps from one flying pod to another.
Yes Yoda seemed to jump away for no reason when he had the Emporer beaten. But that's no reason to render it non-canon. There's probably just something missed out from the script there.
Important thing is it shows what happened to Sidious's lightsaber. Not only did Yoda disarm him but he seemed to overpower him quite badly in the Sabers portion of the fight.
Another important thing to note is the scene goes on to the part of the fight we see in the movie.