Originally posted by h1a8
Hyperbole along with receiving help doesn't prove anything. Regular Iceman can probably reduce temps down to 70k while full potential maybe 40k. Even this is speculation.
Originally posted by h1a8
Hyperbole along with receiving help doesn't prove anything. Regular Iceman can probably reduce temps down to 70k while full potential maybe 40k. Even this is speculation.
Umm it was not a hyperbole it was on panel proof.. And your statement about not having h2o in his fluid tells me you dont understand what your talking about.
Originally posted by Vanlore
No. If superman got hurt by just the cold around him then he surly be in in trouble via direct manipulation ...No the spin of the particle was not stopped. I like how you keep saying that but its not true.... Even if it was Iceman would hold him in that state and them smash him..
Iceman may not be able to even slow his particles down even 1%. I fail to see that Iceman freezing A has anything to do with him freezing B when A and B have different power sets. A's weakness may not be B's. Superman has shown the ability to resist his molecules from being altered (directly). Thus there is no good reason to say that Iceman can do it.
This is assuming that Superman has h2o in his being or doesn't ko bobby at the start of the bell. You know that bobby can be koed instead of killed right?
Originally posted by Vanlore
So superman is going to dehydrate himself and turn that into energy lol..... Well it saves Iceman the trouble of doing it..He would be like... A pile of dirt...
Depends on how vital water is to Superman. We know that food isn't vital to him. More, it comes down to the level of energy radiation vs Iceman's ability over water. Then it comes down to Supes being able to vibrate at frequencies capable of affecting non corporeal entities.
Originally posted by Vanlore
Umm it was not a hyperbole it was on panel proof.. And your statement about not having h2o in his fluid tells me you dont understand what your talking about.
I agree with the comics.
Originally posted by h1a8
Iceman may not be able to even slow his particles down even 1%. I fail to see that Iceman freezing A has anything to do with him freezing B when A and B have different power sets. A's weakness may not be B's. Superman has shown the ability to resist his molecules from being altered (directly). Thus there is no good reason to say that Iceman can do it.This is assuming that Superman has h2o in his being or doesn't ko bobby at the start of the bell. You know that bobby can be koed instead of killed right?
rofl 😆 You really have no idea what your talking about do you.. 💃
Originally posted by Allankles
Depends on how vital water is to Superman. We know that food isn't vital to him. More, it comes down to the level of energy radiation vs Iceman's ability over water. Then it comes down to Supes being able to vibrate at frequencies capable of affecting non corporeal entities.
Superman gets all he needs from the sun. He doesn't need water the way humans do. he can drink it, obviously, but it's not neccessary for him the way it is for us. we don't even know if superman's body contains water. it could be some unknown kryptonian equivalent.
Originally posted by LDHZenkai
Good thing this was a Full Potential Iceman thread and not a regular one. And full potential iceman showed he could do it. and said he could do even more amazing things.
I've seen the scans and fail to see that Iceman can go below 40k.
Hyperbole and receiving help doesn't do anything for me.
Sorry.
Originally posted by Raoul
Superman gets all he needs from the sun. He doesn't need water the way humans do. he can drink it, obviously, but it's not neccessary for him the way it is for us. we don't even know if superman's body contains water. it could be some unknown kryptonian equivalent.
But see this topic has already been done in this thread and superman does have moisture in him. They even got out a superman enciclopedia at one point in the debate lol didn't do any good.
He body has a way to sustain and recycle the moisture in his body.. So like he can be in the son and keep it protected by his biomatrix..
If he didn't have that then he would be a pile of dirt...
Let me ask you... what color is supermans blood win he bleeds? Red.....
Originally posted by Raoul
Superman gets all he needs from the sun. He doesn't need water the way humans do. he can drink it, obviously, but it's not neccessary for him the way it is for us. we don't even know if superman's body contains water. it could be some unknown kryptonian equivalent.
It's something the Iceman backers should consider, not to mention that Supes can already control his molecular vibrations psionically.
Originally posted by Vanlore
But see this topic has already been done in this thread and superman does have moisture in him. They even got out a superman enciclopedia at one point in the debate lol didn't do any good.He body has a way to sustain and recycle the moisture in his body.. So like he can be in the son and keep it protected by his biomatrix..
If he didn't have that then he would be a pile of dirt...
Let me ask you... what color is supermans blood win he bleeds? Red.....
his bio matrix doesnt protect the moisture in his body from evaporating while close to the sun. he's extremely resistant to high and low temperatures as it is.
red blood is no indication that you can just apply the same rules to superman as you would a normal human.
we know he looks like a human on the outside, but inside, there are PLENTY of differences.
Originally posted by Allankles
It's something the Iceman backers should consider, not to mention that Supes can already control his molecular vibrations psionically.
yup, that too.
Originally posted by h1a8
I've seen the scans and fail to see that Iceman can go below 40k.
Hyperbole and receiving help doesn't do anything for me.
Sorry.
omg your full of it dude... The scan is about iceman going absolute zero... Heck the name of the comic issue is absolute zero... And thats WAY before he got is upgrades...
Why even post if your not going to except common knowledge of his powers and on panel proof?
Originally posted by Raoul
his bio matrix doesnt protect the moisture in his body from evaporating while close to the sun. he's extremely resistant to high and low temperatures as it is.red blood is no indication that you can just apply the same rules to superman as you would a normal human.
we know he looks like a human on the outside, but inside, there are PLENTY of differences.
yup, that too.
Explain to me how his biomatrix does not protect his hydration mmkay?
Originally posted by Vanlore
But see this topic has already been done in this thread and superman does have moisture in him. They even got out a superman enciclopedia at one point in the debate lol didn't do any good.He body has a way to sustain and recycle the moisture in his body.. So like he can be in the son and keep it protected by his biomatrix..
If he didn't have that then he would be a pile of dirt...
Let me ask you... what color is supermans blood win he bleeds? Red.....
No one's arguing that he doesn't have fluid in him. We are arguing that he doesn't necessarily have h2o in him. For example when we eat we break up the chemical bonds of the food to form new molecules. Superman may drink water but that doesn't mean he is not breaking the water molecules up into something else.
And what does his blood being red has to do with anything? You are starting to lose your great logic now. Maybe you are getting tired?
Originally posted by Vanlore
Ok fine, lets start with basicsIf he has no hydration in his body.. He would be dirt... How can he survive with no hydration?
by human standards.
superman isn't human.
the fact that he doesn't NEED hydration alone should be enough to dispel any argument that he's somehow as exploitable as a normal humans.
some moisture? sure. he does bleed, have sex, etc.
there's nothing to suggest he relies on it the way we do. thats unless you can prove that his body can convert sunlight in to water, which in itself would further reinforce the fact that superman isn't human.
his blood/bodily fluids could be made up of anything...