Iceman (full potential) vs. Superman

Started by shokosugi90 pages
Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
😆 Who ever told you that was either terribly misinformed or an outright liar. Space has no atmosphere (because it's space) as such it is by definition lacking in temperature.

http://imagine.gsfc.nasa.gov/docs/ask_astro/answers/980301b.html

If we put a thermometer in darkest space, with absolutely nothing around, it would first have to cool off. This might take a very very long time. Once it cooled off, it would read 2.7 Kelvin. This is because of the "3 degree microwave background radiation." No matter where you go, you cannot escape it -- it is always there.

http://www.wisegeek.com/what-is-the-temperature-in-space.htm

The short answer is that the temperature in space is approximately 2.725 Kelvin. That means the universe is generally just shy of three degrees above absolute zero – the temperature at which molecules themselves stop moving. That’s almost -270 degrees Celsius, or -455 Fahrenheit.

http://www.colorado.edu/physics/2000/bec/temperature.html

The coldest place in nature is the depths of outer space. There it is 3 degrees above Absolute Zero.

NOW. what don't you understand??????

Originally posted by Trackz
there are instances in which he is thinking, and you can see clearly he has gathered ice on him (there's no way he would actually gather ice I dont think unless he was perspiring, I'm pretty sure the artist just wanted to show how cold it was around him)

Good enough. He probably is just about impossible to freeze.

Originally posted by Trackz
then he hears a cry for help and he shakes it off and dives towards the earth

That only raises further question! 😛

Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
He would only be exposed to those temperatures he spent months in space. I don't read much Superman but I can't recall any instances of him spending more than a few days traveling, I could be wrong.

Superman has spent YEARS / even more in space.

lots o ignorance in here. Although space itself emits no temperature of its own. it does transfer temperature constantly. How the hell else do you think we on earth get heat? From solar rays. So no obviously space has no inherent temp of its own, but there are constant variations above zero within any galaxy containing any form of heat.

And I think an Omega level Bobby is capable of freezing Kent, but the issue is...how fast can he do it, and how long can he maintain it.

Originally posted by shokosugi
http://imagine.gsfc.nasa.gov/docs/ask_astro/answers/980301b.html

If we put a thermometer in darkest space, with absolutely nothing around, it would first have to cool off. This might take a very very long time. Once it cooled off, it would read 2.7 Kelvin. This is because of the "3 degree microwave background radiation." No matter where you go, you cannot escape it -- it is always there.

http://www.wisegeek.com/what-is-the-temperature-in-space.htm

The short answer is that the temperature in space is approximately 2.725 Kelvin. That means the universe is generally just shy of three degrees above absolute zero – the temperature at which molecules themselves stop moving. That’s almost -270 degrees Celsius, or -455 Fahrenheit.

http://www.colorado.edu/physics/2000/bec/temperature.html

The coldest place in nature is the depths of outer space. There it is 3 degrees above Absolute Zero.

NOW. what don't you understand??????

You can feel free to ignore science and cling to random claims the contradict the definitions of both "temperature" and of "space", I just wanted to point out a common misconception and it has fairly little bearing on this thread.

Originally posted by horrorwolf
lots o ignorance in here. Although sapce itselfemits no temperature of its own. it does transfer temperature constantly. How the hell else do you think we on earth get heat? From solar rays. So no obviously space has no inherent temp of its own, but there are constant variations above zero within any galaxy containing any form of heat.

And I think an Omega level Bobby is capable of freezing Kent, but the issue is...how fast can he do it, and how long can he maintain it.

if Superman has been cooled to near absolute zero temperatures, how could Iceman freeze him?

Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
You can feel free to ignore science and cling to random claims the contradict the definitions of both "temperature" and of "space", I just wanted to point out a common misconception and it has fairly little bearing on this thread.

ignore science???? cling to random claims???? 😆

these are scientific FACTS.

Originally posted by Trackz
if Superman has been cooled to near absolute zero temperatures, how could Iceman freeze him?

Superman has never been frozen at true absolute 0 or he would have no cellular activity.

Originally posted by shokosugi
ignore science???? cling to random claims???? 😆

these are scientific FACTS.

No offense, but I think your missing his point.

Originally posted by Badabing
No offense, but I think your missing his point.

He is wrong, so i don't think i am missing anything.

^ aside from several chromosomes.

i miss your mom.

Originally posted by horrorwolf
Superman has never been frozen at true absolute 0 or he would have no cellular activity.

True, that's because no one can, he has too much control over the kinetic energy of his own molecules to allow such a thing to happen.

If anyone can freeze a Kryptonian, an Omega Iceman can.

My issue with Bobby is if he can do it fast enough and maintain it.
This comes down to who has better control over temperature at subatomic levels.

Originally posted by psycho gundam
^ aside from several chromosomes.
o lawd

😂

Originally posted by shokosugi
i miss your mom.
blame your dad for that. getting caught trying on her dresses and makeup was a bad move.

😂

Originally posted by horrorwolf
If anyone can freeze a Kryptonian, an Omega Iceman can.

My issue with Bobby is if he can do it fast enough and maintain it.
This comes down to who has better control over temperature at subatomic levels.

Well i'd imagine the guy who has absolute control over temperature would probably be the one with that. And since full potential iceman is stated to have that I would go with him. I don't understand how you all don't get the fact that he could stop supermans cells from moving. It's what he does.

Its because Iceman can only manipulate h2o molecules. If Superman doesn't have any in him then what is Iceman going to manipulate?
Also if Superman does have h2o molecules in him then he can only freeze those to try to cause Superman's molecules surrounding them to freeze. This is the same as being in a cold environment in which the environment is making one's molecules cold. Superman can operate in near absolute zero deep space without the slightest discomfort.

Originally posted by horrorwolf
Superman has never been frozen at true absolute 0 or he would have no cellular activity.
and iceman lacks the ability to freeze him at absolute zero, just because molecules stop moving, it doesnt mean they can't start again, iceman doesnt have the power to keep superman at absolute zero seeing as their are an infinite amount of heat sources including supermans own body that would heat him up, and supermans has already demonstrated he can function perfectly fine in environments in which he is 2-3 degrees short of absolute zero.