Fantastic Four vs Spider-Man, Wolverine, Storm & Colossus

Originally posted by Creshosk
She has projectile attacks. . .

This is the same wonder material that conducted the electricity to cage in thing? As though electricity would harm a man made out of rock?

So then, that would be Thing's own fault then, eh? For being moronic enough to believe that electricity would hurt him, that is.

Allllthooough...

http://img38.exs.cx/img38/6836/ff27.jpg

This electrical shock sure seems to hurt Thing pretty bad. In fact, it seems to have done quite the number on him. That sure does look like a scream of pain to me.

Maybe Ben wasn't so stupid for trying to avoid the electricity conducted through Spiderman's web...hm...

Can't Sue just knock Storm out with her forcefields?

She made Namor shout in pain when she hurled her forcefields at him, Storm should be decapitated.

Originally posted by Metalmanx
So then, that would be Thing's own fault then, eh? For being moronic enough to believe that electricity would hurt him, that is.

Allllthooough...

http://img38.exs.cx/img38/6836/ff27.jpg

This electrical shock sure seems to hurt Thing pretty bad. In fact, it seems to have done quite the number on him. That sure does look like a scream of pain to me.

Maybe Ben wasn't so stupid for trying to avoid the electricity conducted through Spiderman's web...hm...

Think about that. . .

Originally posted by DarkCrawler
Can't Sue just knock Storm out with her forcefields?

She made Namor shout in pain when she hurled her forcefields at him, Storm should be decapitated.

Is that in character though?

Originally posted by Creshosk
Was that Black panther kicking the Thing and knocking him down?

Think about that. . .

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Huh? What the hell is that supposed to mean? Try that again please. I don't speak gibberish.

Originally posted by CorderaMitchell
Is that in character though?

I am sure she could control it so that she could just be knocked out.

cool, that could work, but wouldn't she have to many other things to focus on?

Originally posted by Metalmanx
Wait, when did IW start flying?

And to answer something from earlier, Spidey doesn't even necessarily need his special flame-retardent webbing. His normal webbing works just fine against flames/heat.

If you will recall Spidey's first encounter with the FF, Spidey basically instantly made a bat out of his normal webbing and knocked HT fireballs back at him.

What's to stop Spidey from making web gloves (like we all know he has done in the past and is still capable of doing), and socking HT when he gets too close?

And why wouldn't Colossus be able to jump super high/far? If the Hulk can do it, there's absolutely no reason why Colossus cannot.

When I said IW would be in the air she wouldnt exactly be flying just using an invisible support board to float on. She can control her forcefields so by riding her force field she can fly. Colossus can no doubt jump extremely high but thats not the issue the issue is how accurate he onna be if torch for example is sending a fireball he gonna have to time perfectly when to jump so he can save storm. Other wise he would just be jumping all over the place trying to land some blows in. However colossus wont be givin the chance to jump around reed would contain him easily. Hes done so to the thing before with relative ease. If reeed stretches to make a blanket and completly cover colossus he wouldnt be able to get a could grip to pry him off.

Originally posted by stormfront13
colossus has super-strength in his muscles also, he could possibly jump to storm. and sue won't be doing anything once her air supply is electrified. she can do more than one thing at once, one lightning attack, one wind attack.

For colossus read my previous post. Storm can do more than one thing at once like lighting and wind at the same time but she has to concentrate to affect sue inside the force field or somthign complicated like electrifying the air to shut down her organs. Sue reacts and attacks quicker. As soon and the rain starts pouring on johnny...BAM storms knocked out by a force bolt. They dont even have to double team storm to defeat her. If johnny goes for her sotmr is going to focus on him and while shes de-flaming him sue who is invisible can take her out. Dont tell me storm can see her by viewing the energy patterns because she has to focus she doesnt always see like this. Storm would only switch to this vision if shes going after IW.

Storms Strong, Sues stronger.

Originally posted by Metalmanx
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Huh? What the hell is that supposed to mean? Try that again please. I don't speak gibberish.

Was that Black Panther that kicked The Thing, and knocked him down?

If the answer is yes that was black panther that kicked the thing and knocked him down.

Then think about that occurence.

Originally posted by CorderaMitchell
When'd I say that? I said I DON'T BACK DOWN!
What are you doing here, you know nothing of the characters.

You haven't even given an argument, venom turns into gasses, and spidey IS SOOOO MUCH TOUGHER! 🤣

whatever

I based that on the fighting experience of Spiderman. And it doesn't mean you're stronger then your tougher. It's based on the character's traits not just brute strength. And beside's Spiderman has the most wins against Venom.

For example why do people always call Wolverine tough and very scary. Even when his facing much bigger opponent than him.

Originally posted by Creshosk
Like posting someone's nightmare shows what they are capable of?

Fantastic *tries to stretch far*

erg. . grr. . .mmph. . .

Damn it. . .

Okay okay. . uh. . *breaks fist punching the concrete*

AW $&$%!

*tries to run really fast* Brrf frmph. . .

Okay, okay I've got this one.

*sticks hand out and consetrates*
grr bmm . .

Nothing. . damn.

And what about Juggernaut making a hole on Wolverine's chest and what about Wolverine getting shot in the head and in the body. You've never examine that.

Ah I get it, Corderamitchell bought you too. How much did he pay you did he give you some avatars and pics. You're just one of his personal maids, no one will listen to you except your master CorderaMitchell. 😆

o.O;;;;

Originally posted by Metalmanx
So then, that would be Thing's own fault then, eh? For being moronic enough to believe that electricity would hurt him, that is.

Allllthooough...

http://img38.exs.cx/img38/6836/ff27.jpg

This electrical shock sure seems to hurt Thing pretty bad. In fact, it seems to have done quite the number on him. That sure does look like a scream of pain to me.

Maybe Ben wasn't so stupid for trying to avoid the electricity conducted through Spiderman's web...hm...

Thats a CL 10-15 Ben. Not a CL 100 THING.

Originally posted by CorderaMitchell
Why is wolverine here, is he a hit soaker for sue or something? Or was he just put here to have more people put their opinions on?

He can't attack airbornes, he has short range, he's pretty obsolete here really.

Except for the fact that he's cut up Thing before, right?

*****Sue reacts and attacks quicker*****

^^really, and Im sure that that is why storm's reflexes are said to be on par with wolverines.

*****As soon and the rain starts pouring on johnny...BAM storms knocked out by a force bolt*****

doesn't ned rAin to do it to johnny, just one just of wind. all that takes is a thought. Storm is better than this, and would be able to sense sue and attack.

*****Dont tell me storm can see her by viewing the energy patterns because she has to focus she doesnt always see like this*****

she doesn't need to switch her vision, she can sense sue through disturbance through the wind.

*****Storms Strong, Sues stronger*****

^^completley a matter of opinion.

Originally posted by paeng
And what about Juggernaut making a hole on Wolverine's chest and what about Wolverine getting shot in the head and in the body. You've never examine that.

Ah I get it, Corderamitchell bought you too. How much did he pay you did he give you some avatars and pics. You're just one of his personal maids, no one will listen to you except your master CorderaMitchell. 😆

And do you see that in your evidence of "what wolvie can take": 🙂

OH and you think I'm one of C's followers?

Did you see the wolverine versus spiderman thread? OR storm versus collosus?

Originally posted by stormfront13
*****Sue reacts and attacks quicker*****

^^really, and Im sure that that is why storm's reflexes are said to be on par with wolverines.

*****As soon and the rain starts pouring on johnny...BAM storms knocked out by a force bolt*****

doesn't ned rAin to do it to johnny, just one just of wind. all that takes is a thought. Storm is better than this, and would be able to sense sue and attack.

*****Dont tell me storm can see her by viewing the energy patterns because she has to focus she doesnt always see like this*****

she doesn't need to switch her vision, she can sense sue through disturbance through the wind.

*****Storms Strong, Sues stronger*****

^^completley a matter of opinion.

Imo you're underestimating the value of teamwork, and you're underestimating the calibre of the opponents Storm is facing in assuming that she'll manage to take out the Storm siblings all by herself.

Torch is not a candle. One brief gust of wind is going to snuff out flames that encompass the entirety of Torch's body and burn at around 800 F? Brief gusts of wind do not exactly help put out forest fires. She either has to create a vacuum to deprive him of oxygen, or smother the flame with a heavy downpour of precipitation as light rain would evaporate, both of these methods take time.

You also assume that she won't need to evade flame attacks from Torch, and that Torch won't be maneuvering evasively as well.

On top of all this IW is invisible and somehow Storm is dividing her concentration away from Torch blasting at her to sense disturbances in the wind so that she can find her?

Originally posted by Nataku8188
Except for the fact that he's cut up Thing before, right?

Noone agrees on that, he hurt him, then he couldn't, thats why I asked if anyone thought he could take ben.

Originally posted by paeng
I based that on the fighting experience of Spiderman. And it doesn't mean you're stronger then your tougher. It's based on the character's traits not just brute strength. And beside's Spiderman has the most wins against Venom.

For example why do people always call Wolverine tough and very scary. Even when his facing much bigger opponent than him.

Spiderman isn't more durable than venom, at all.