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here it shows sups aint all powerful haha
Originally posted by He-guy88lol sweet
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here it shows sups aint all powerful haha
Originally posted by wannabe
Ok, my last try to get through to you![B]1)
YES, you are right diabloman, HT can control fire as well and more.BUT Pyro is better than HT at controlling fire, and i think so...
...because Pyro has shown far more examples of control than HT.
...because Reed himself said, that Johnny had less control than Franky Ray and she never expressed control on Pyro's level.
...because Fire Control is Pyro's only power, the only thing he's been training all his life, while HT has other powers as well he had to master.
...because HT was never able to manipulate flames in a way that they become almost solid and are able to carry, hold and punch superstrong characters like Hulk and Colossus (which has nothing to do with the fire's heat).2) YES, you are right diabloman, HT can also absorb fire.
BUT in order to do so (literally "taking the flames away" from Pyro) he would have to overcome Pyro's control over them in the first place, which he can not do because Pyro's control is superior to his.
A comparison to make my point even clearer:
Imagine Magneto and Polaris fighting each other and Eric throws a metal bar at Lorna.
Of course Polaris could try to use her own power of control over magnetism and metal to take the bar away from Magneto (like you propose HT could absorb the fire that is under Pyro's control), but she won't be able to do so, because she would have to overcome Magneto's control over the bar in the first place, which she can not do, because Eric's control is superior to hers.3) (before you mention it again) YES, HT is almost immune against heat.
BUT it would not be the heat of Pyro's flames that will pose a threat to Johnny, it will be the fact that these flames can become solid and superstrong and so are able to rip HT apart just like any other powerhouse could do.
I desperately hope i expressed it clear enough for you to understand this time.
If you don't agree with these points, please explain WHY and back you opinion up with decent reasoning and comic examples instead of just repeating things that i already dealt with in this debate. [/B]
Great post....Don't even bother anymore though...There's no point....That's why I stopped a few pages ago.
Originally posted by diablomanWell, when for example Pyro's fire golem grabs HT and tears him apart, because it is made solid and superstrong by Pyro, it will certainly be a threat to HT.
how the hell would tha be a threat to him ? HT would stand there and let pyro have a good time shooting fire at him all day. wont do jack
Originally posted by Darth MacabreThanks, you are probably right!
Great post....Don't even bother anymore though...There's no point....That's why I stopped a few pages ago.
Originally posted by wannabeyall still dont get it.
Well, when for example Pyro's fire golem grabs HT and tears him apart, because it is made solid and superstrong by Pyro, it will certainly be a threat to HT.
Last time i checked HT was not invulnerable or had superdurability. So a creature, that can hold Colossus and seriously hurt and punch the Hulk, will surely be able to injure HT.
And don't come with the immunity to heat or fire-absorbtion argument again, i already dealt with that in several posts to you before and you were not able or willing to invalidate my reasoning.Thanks, you are probably right!
Originally posted by diablomanwallbash
yall still dont get it.
WHAT do i not get???!!!
YOU didn't explained ANYTHING, you just PROCLAIMED things and I invalidated those proclamations as useful arguments for your point of view in a logical, reasonable way and with backup from the comics. I'd be PLEASED, if you would proceed the same way...honestly!
Originally posted by wannabei keep on saying the same thing over and over cause u dont get it through your hard head that HT can absorb fire and control fire outside of himself. you think pyro is cooler just cause he can make some bird or what ever with his flame thrower that anyone can use. and wont do a damn thing if pyro shoots at him while hes on fire or not cause again HE CAN ABSORB FIRE HE CAN ABSORB FIRE HE CAN ABSORB FIRE. YOU DONT GET IT THROUGH YOUR HARD HEAD MAN
wallbashWHAT do i not get???!!!
YOU didn't explained ANYTHING, you just PROCLAIMED things and I invalidated those proclamations as useful arguments for your point of view in a logical, reasonable way and with backup from the comics. I'd be PLEASED, if you would proceed the same way...honestly!
Originally posted by Lethal_Risewtf is he gonna do to win ? he cant do jack to HT. HT has the same skills as pyro and higher. the only thing HT cant do is make some birdie or house or what ever with his flames.
just let this thread die. I hate HT and love pyro, but he's just not gonna win, unless he turns omega or something.
